Message from @Kanobiobiwan

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2020-12-25 06:56:00 UTC  

Context is always important

2020-12-25 06:56:35 UTC  

Amen

2020-12-25 06:56:40 UTC  

I like the quote “I can do all things through a verse out of context”

2020-12-25 06:56:54 UTC  

I’ve never heard that. That’s so good

2020-12-25 06:59:20 UTC  

I can even do it with your screenshot, take one part and completely reverse the meaning

2020-12-25 06:59:51 UTC  

Oh I so believe u.

2020-12-25 07:01:47 UTC  

“Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?”
*’Here it directly states that being baptized for Christ is a death sentence and bad’*
See

2020-12-25 07:03:50 UTC  

That’s a problem I have with the ‘verse of the day’ thing. It leaves out the context, and a lot of people aren’t going to go look

2020-12-25 07:04:16 UTC  

Fair

2020-12-25 07:05:16 UTC  

U should also quote the reference (chapter and verse), so our sunday school and bible study skills will kick in.

2020-12-25 07:06:45 UTC  

Another quote I like is “All of the Bible for you, but not all of the Bible is directed to you”
Meaning we can take many lessons and more from the Bible, but not everything in it is specifically meant for us

2020-12-25 07:10:03 UTC  

Such as being in the lion’s den and the furnace.
Certain people were able to survive, but that doesn’t mean that if we have enough faith we’ll be fine in the same situation

2020-12-25 07:11:10 UTC  

That’s a pretty obvious one, but the same logic can be used for other things in the Bible

2020-12-25 07:14:21 UTC  

We just have to use discernment to see whether or not what we are currently reading applies to all of us or just a specific person/people/group

2020-12-25 07:18:49 UTC  

I agree...the Bible is a collection of inspired writings (a book of books), essentially a "library" with different genres (allegories, poetry, war stories, love stories), a chronicle of our encounter with God (inspired) passed down through the millenias.

2020-12-25 09:35:00 UTC  

Some bible though take out verse and many chapters like the good news bible only have 3 chapters of revelation

2020-12-25 09:41:37 UTC  

Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
I Corinthians 10:31
Is abortions glorifying God? I think not! Abortions is an abomination to God for he gives life, My mother was told by doctors to abort my youngest brother because they said he won't make it pass the age of 3 but Glory to God that he's 11 and still living and proving God is in control! Though my brother can't,walk or talk and has many more problems, my youngest brother is a blessing to the family! I ask you to count your blessings for you have many though they be as small as pea it is very big!

2020-12-25 13:40:27 UTC  

Merry Christmas and God bless you all!

2020-12-25 14:20:57 UTC  

merry Christmas to you as well

2020-12-25 20:11:07 UTC  
2020-12-25 20:11:10 UTC  

Thoughts?

2020-12-25 22:23:10 UTC  

agreed

2020-12-25 22:24:28 UTC  

christmas comes from a pagan holiday- the birth of a "sun god"

2020-12-25 22:24:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792155846355451934/z67034171.png

2020-12-25 22:25:03 UTC  

the catholic church changed the pagan festival into a more "acceptable" one for the masses

2020-12-25 22:25:39 UTC  

“December 25….a festival was celebrated among the
heathen, at that precise time of the year, in honour of
the birth of the son of the Babylonian queen of heaven
…the sun-god Nimrod…the same festival was adopted
by the Roman Church, giving it the name of Christ.”
–The Two Babylons
Alexander Hislop

2020-12-25 22:41:04 UTC  

I’ve heard that the church wanted to make the transition from pagan religion to Christianity easier for newer converts, so they created a holiday on the same day as the pagan one, but about Christ

2020-12-25 23:06:00 UTC  

yes

2020-12-25 23:14:23 UTC  

Tammuz is like Pan

2020-12-26 00:00:24 UTC  

It could also be that the pagan holidays moved to dec 25th to appease the Christians.

2020-12-26 02:55:31 UTC  

I feel like its worth pointing out that the 25th December has been suggested for the correct date of Jesus's birth from at least as early as AD 195, thus before the claims that it 'replaced' a pagan festival.
A few ancient historians claim to have verified this date using the documents from the census mentioned in Luke.
If you have the time I'd highly recommend listening to the podcast these graphics come from, as it looks in a lot more depth into the Christmas and Paganism debate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224028491776020/image0-1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224028906487809/image1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224029071114250/image2.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224029356064788/image3.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224029544546334/image4.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/792224029833560094/image5-1.jpg

2020-12-26 03:05:54 UTC  

Hmm, interesting

2020-12-26 04:41:03 UTC  

I think, based on the grazing of sheep mentioned in the book of Matthew, it's more likely that it occurred in March. Interestingly, a conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn occurred in that month, in about 1 or 2 B.C.

2020-12-26 04:41:26 UTC  

If I read it correctly.

2020-12-26 04:51:48 UTC  

I question why the specific date really matters. I mean if it was so important, wouldn’t it have been included in the Bible? Thoughts?

2020-12-26 04:53:15 UTC  

Not sure. Perhaps there was a date discrepancy. Was the Julian calendar in use at the time? I think it was.

2020-12-26 05:14:27 UTC  

I haven't asked. What I've said is all I know.

2020-12-26 05:16:58 UTC  

The old Julian calendar was probably used but, we don't know since people used many different calendars in those times