Message from @Kit_DewStein

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2020-12-29 00:55:00 UTC  

politics is a huge thing specifically in the catholic church

2020-12-29 00:55:07 UTC  

not for the catholic people

2020-12-29 00:55:10 UTC  

but the church

2020-12-29 00:56:12 UTC  

No, faith beliefs. Not political, dumbass

2020-12-29 00:57:09 UTC  

Political beliefs stem from religion belief. Or at least most political views do

2020-12-29 00:57:21 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-29 00:58:25 UTC  

exactly, it is a big part in religion but your "faith" is something that comes from urself

2020-12-29 00:58:56 UTC  

Faith is a gift from God though

2020-12-29 00:59:08 UTC  

At least in christianity

2020-12-29 01:00:48 UTC  

I don't have "religion". I don't have time for that crap.

2020-12-29 01:00:50 UTC  

i myself am a christian but i would not call it a "gift" but a descision of truth seeking and agapi (the divine love) wich is infact given by god wich is love that no human relationship has

2020-12-29 01:01:00 UTC  

then dont come here lmao

2020-12-29 01:01:03 UTC  

I have Faith in God.

2020-12-29 01:01:25 UTC  

right the word religion gets used in many wrong ways

2020-12-29 01:01:48 UTC  

i usually also say faith but that other people understand i say religion

2020-12-29 01:02:33 UTC  

The word religion should only be used to describe a group of people with the same faiths. But to say that somebody's faith is religion is the wrong way to use the word.

2020-12-29 01:03:13 UTC  

that is not how i was using it but yeah

2020-12-29 01:03:16 UTC  

I went to a Bible college...faith is a gift from God. Let me go find the verse

2020-12-29 01:03:40 UTC  

Faith is a gift.

2020-12-29 01:05:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770707776070090794/793283513428213770/Screenshot_20201228-200513.png

2020-12-29 01:06:26 UTC  

Ephesians 2: 8-10

2020-12-29 01:14:39 UTC  

they are still political

2020-12-29 01:15:16 UTC  
2020-12-29 01:17:30 UTC  

what about pharies then? regardless of wich religion they were also political leaders and thats a historical fact

2020-12-29 01:17:47 UTC  

They twisted religious beliefs

2020-12-29 01:18:06 UTC  

Pharisees and Sadducees twisted the laws of Moses in order to control the people

2020-12-29 01:18:12 UTC  

but they were political leaders

2020-12-29 01:18:22 UTC  

regardless

2020-12-29 01:18:23 UTC  

They weren't even supposed to be political leaders they were supposed to be spiritual leaders

2020-12-29 01:18:32 UTC  

They doubled in politics because they had power from it

2020-12-29 01:18:32 UTC  

But they weren't religious

2020-12-29 01:18:37 UTC  

true but they were political leaders.

2020-12-29 01:19:18 UTC  

they made political descisions therefore they were political leaders chosen by romans and even before that

2020-12-29 01:20:03 UTC  

They made religious decisions

2020-12-29 01:20:12 UTC  

and political

2020-12-29 01:20:23 UTC  

That they used to get political gain

2020-12-29 01:20:56 UTC  

again, regardless they were political leaders, and its a fact

2020-12-29 01:21:01 UTC  

They didn't make any political decisions. They just got the gains from the decisions made.

2020-12-29 01:21:01 UTC  

The Old Testament is filled with religious people trying to play the politics game and dying from it

2020-12-29 01:21:29 UTC  

they did xD