Message from @DRAWDAN

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2020-12-29 01:03:16 UTC  

I went to a Bible college...faith is a gift from God. Let me go find the verse

2020-12-29 01:03:40 UTC  

Faith is a gift.

2020-12-29 01:05:28 UTC  

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2020-12-29 01:06:26 UTC  

Ephesians 2: 8-10

2020-12-29 01:14:39 UTC  

they are still political

2020-12-29 01:15:16 UTC  
2020-12-29 01:17:30 UTC  

what about pharies then? regardless of wich religion they were also political leaders and thats a historical fact

2020-12-29 01:17:47 UTC  

They twisted religious beliefs

2020-12-29 01:18:06 UTC  

Pharisees and Sadducees twisted the laws of Moses in order to control the people

2020-12-29 01:18:12 UTC  

but they were political leaders

2020-12-29 01:18:22 UTC  

regardless

2020-12-29 01:18:23 UTC  

They weren't even supposed to be political leaders they were supposed to be spiritual leaders

2020-12-29 01:18:32 UTC  

They doubled in politics because they had power from it

2020-12-29 01:18:32 UTC  

But they weren't religious

2020-12-29 01:18:37 UTC  

true but they were political leaders.

2020-12-29 01:19:18 UTC  

they made political descisions therefore they were political leaders chosen by romans and even before that

2020-12-29 01:20:03 UTC  

They made religious decisions

2020-12-29 01:20:12 UTC  

and political

2020-12-29 01:20:23 UTC  

That they used to get political gain

2020-12-29 01:20:56 UTC  

again, regardless they were political leaders, and its a fact

2020-12-29 01:21:01 UTC  

They didn't make any political decisions. They just got the gains from the decisions made.

2020-12-29 01:21:01 UTC  

The Old Testament is filled with religious people trying to play the politics game and dying from it

2020-12-29 01:21:29 UTC  

they did xD

2020-12-29 01:21:34 UTC  

Look at 1st and 2nd kings

2020-12-29 01:21:55 UTC  

look at the gospel, jesus critisizes them for it, ever read the gospel?

2020-12-29 01:22:01 UTC  

Dude

2020-12-29 01:22:12 UTC  

I know the Bible

2020-12-29 01:22:20 UTC  

ik im just kidding

2020-12-29 01:22:22 UTC  

Jesus criticizes them for being false prophets

2020-12-29 01:22:22 UTC  

my bad

2020-12-29 01:29:52 UTC  

oh btw if u guys know the bible i am certain that you know the external writer "josephus" who brought us historical evidence of jesus's wonders and his death etc. he himself even wrote about the pharasees being politicians, they would solve a crisis together in their own "council" in wich they were there to decide what would happen, how the laws may change and many other things wich is literally a definition of being a politician

2020-12-29 01:33:06 UTC  

you cannot deny that they were political leaders as well, but i do agree that they did a bad job in many things if it was religious or political

2020-12-29 01:36:43 UTC  

originally they were not political figures but they did become it

2020-12-29 01:36:48 UTC  

doesnt mean its good

2020-12-29 01:37:15 UTC  

they also controlled the taxes under king's command

2020-12-29 01:37:20 UTC  

wich is another huge part of being a politician

2020-12-29 01:37:26 UTC  

controlled the local market

2020-12-29 01:37:32 UTC  

another political thing

2020-12-29 01:37:42 UTC  

so yeah

2020-12-29 01:37:46 UTC  

they were political