"mostly peaceful protests"

@Al <3 but it should be legal for cases in which it is dangerous or nessacary, alot do put up for adoption, but it should be nessaracy as a last possible resort, say codemn breaks and pills don;t work

> @Al <3 but it should be legal for cases in which it is dangerous or nessacary, alot do put up for adoption, but it should be nessaracy as a last possible resort, say codemn breaks and pills don;t work
@chaz so what you're saying is that it should ONLY be legal when a potential mother's life is at risk, correct?

or it would destroy her life, one good life or two terrible ones

I’m sorry but “destroying one’s life” is not the same. We should not reason that we can murder someone because the outcome from their own actions inconvenience them.

exactly when is the line in the sand drawn, and why not say, one femtosecond later or sooner?

for instance allowing an abortion while crowning is heinous, but banning it at conception is absurd

> @Al <3 but it should be legal for cases in which it is dangerous or nessacary, alot do put up for adoption, but it should be nessaracy as a last possible resort, say codemn breaks and pills don;t work
@chaz If the mother’s life is at risk..? honestly I’m not sure. That’s a grey area for me. I suppose it depends on the specific situation. And as I said.. if someone isn’t in the place to have a child, they shouldn’t have sex. Pregnancy is always a risk of intercourse. Someone shouldn’t loose their life, or not even get an opportunity to live because of another’s selfishness.

We must define when someone is in fact someone, declaring someone is presumptive and loaded

Im with @chaz on this

It’s a human.. regardless of their stage of development

abortian should be legal within one month, when there is not a nervous system but rather a mass of stem cells.

just saying, can't be any "moral ambiguity", nail it down to an exact science, with clear logically supported reasons

@Sengorn Leopardae I disagree there. Abortion is murder no matter the time frame. From the moment of conception that is a separate set of DNA, a separate life. Nobody has the right to determine what life has the ability to live. If someone has sex, they should be able to live with the consequences.

So you're vegan?

wait, plants are still yet life also

If a fetus is not considered alive then why is planned parenthood harvesting organs from them?

Also, Chaz, inviting your friends to back you up doesn’t help here.

no emotional arguments, pure logic only

boy I dont know Bishop

I think this is a discussion for a different chanel

ok where to?

Also, @Sengorn Leopardae a human life. Prefer that designation? And emotions is the best way to argue with lefties.

Take it to <#727615870385389638>

emotion is what drives man, do you dissagree with kant and thomas moore?

I swear I might just wear a fucking maga hat to spite the leftist idiots at my school

Calling someone who does not agree with homosexuality because of religion and personal problems a homophobe is the stupidest thing I’ve heard all week

go right ahead, you have freedom of speech and eprestion, if anyone judges you, ask them for a polite disscuation rather than mindless hate

Did you say discussion? Yeah im not sure it's possible to have a discussion with a leftist. The screening of insults begins the second facts are established.

I swear to god they’ll throw every phobic at you

They also seem to despise white people

And always make up stupid theoretical situations that would never happen

People that hate themselves often deflect their own inadequacies on the people they don't agree with.

I mean don't get me misconstrued but ever scince Trump a: said the challotsville Nazis "good people" b: refused to condemn white supremists and c: told the proud boys to stand by it kinda hurt the image of all of his supporters

I'm more of a centrist but gradually slipping more towards the conservative side. Yet almost all of my discussions with leftists were fruitless and ended with them being over emotional, and throwing insults. While most of my discussions with conservatives were pleasant. I remember one that started hostile but in the end we stated our points and even ended it on good terms wishing a good day and so on.. Good luck finding a leftist being able to do that

@chaz 2 of those are lies

@chaz just made my point thats not what TRUMP said

I think that's the reason why I'm hanging with conservatives in the first place

I Live in a big city and I've met both extreems, one was a woman who I held a door for yelled at me for 15 minutes and the maga hat wearing man,(not like you guys) who told me US was gonna be the fourth riech and he wanted to burn the jews

I have met many a well tempored leftist and I am sorry you have had such bad expierences