OML my brain cells

And the other is a multicellular organism that turns into a person with a brain

they can be parent, and since the gendered term for that is mother, her arguement is bad.

See what bugs me is like, they mean it literally. like someone could be a figurative mother like, in the generalized role of it but yeah phew

They’re gone after reading that

@Rhyean thats gross

yeah

Yeah there is no reaction strong enough for that

Nope

Vomit is close

That’s just <:Ben_Cringe:752572527120875520>

if "trans women" can be mother for carrying sperms, men is also capable of being a mother? which, isn't how it works, even for gay couples. males (even feminine males) foster differently compared to female

Yup

I do agree @isoboto like, why they consider "different = bad" I'll never understand.

Agreed

I don’t understand why we need so many labels for everyone lol

I've noticed that no matter if you're gay or not in each couple there tends to be a feminine and masculine person

Her argument contradicts basic biology.

But I gtg to class

Like just acknowledge that it's not the same, but that doesn't mean it has to be bad. I think we can say like we know there's an "ideal model" of family that worked pretty well for several thousand years but like, life isn't easy and we have have alternatives but let them be that -- alternatives

> I do agree @isoboto like, why they consider "different = bad" I'll never understand.
@Dark no. you NEED different people. best parental system is when you have one being more strict and enforcing the rules, while the other is more gentle and kind to explain why the rules exist and work in a certain way.

Yeah I'm with you there I was getting to that lol 😄

Yeah that’s the best model, but alternatives work (but shouldn’t be accepted as the normal/best which isn’t bad)

> I've noticed that no matter if you're gay or not in each couple there tends to be a feminine and masculine person
@❄֍Winter Soul֍❄ yup. if you have 2 persons who are completely soft and/or hard it makes it hard for the relationship to be sustainable. especially in teaching the children.

Yup

Yeah I'd fully agree it's stupidly important or has to be supplemented somehow like a grandparent or something

> Yeah that’s the best model, but alternatives work (but shouldn’t be accepted as the normal/best which isn’t bad)
@Draconem_Dominus i have met alternatives (parents who are both soft and lenient) and the kids are very spoiled. not that they are bad kids. it's just kids that demand stuffs and get it easily

I agree

Yeah I’ve seen that too

I think that's also "new age parenting" vs old school

They work but are obviously not the best

> Yeah I'd fully agree it's stupidly important or has to be supplemented somehow like a grandparent or something
@Dark completely agree. not necessarily blood parents are the best models (because some parents are indeed assholes), but you need a pair of parental figures, that's for sure

Yes absolutely

You see that in all pack animals

Yeah, I actually always wonder what exactly the impact is of role absence

but initial studies and such always show it's very extreme

> Yeah, I actually always wonder what exactly the impact is of role absence
@Dark This is why a lot of kids without a dad tends to gravitate toward crimes and/or end up in prison

True yeah but that can also be economic too

Definitely, but it’s a pretty big factor

there ARE examples of kids growing up without dad and made it, but for a lot of them, without a strong hand that hold them up the kids don't learn to be strong and face consequences

I agree