The whole left versus right is not some categorization made by a bunch of political normie on the street today, it was well established since the French Revolution during their political debate trials. Those who sat on the left were known as the Jacobists who wanted radical equality and destroy tradition in France, those who sat on the right; were the Girondists who favor a more reformed protocol to the French royalty.

So they are kinda defined groups already by that historical context alone.

If you want to keep the traditional roles in society and conserve them as a means to better society as well as conserving the nuclear family as it has been; you are from the right. If you don't believe that and want to steer through mindless progressivism and do away with hierarchies, and want total egalitarianism enforced, you are of the left. Plain and simple.

Other positions may vary in different aspects under those two groups but the rules of thoughts are the same.

why anybody would want that?

Because it has kept civilizations strong, at least in certain social aspects, like the nuclear family.

And yes, anybody, including the Girondists back then.

I should have been more clear, I was meant to ask about left(mindless progressivism, away with hierarchies and the like)

Ah.

Well, to rephrase then, those who want that were people like Marx, Engels, Simon de Beauvoir and the Jacobins.

To be fair to the history in France, the royalty there wasn't exactly as good as it could be, so it was understandable the protests that happened, but Girondists wanted to reform the system and keep the hierarchies while allowing reasonable freedoms to people like blacks. But Jacobins were so radical and almost Marxist in tendencies that they decided bloodshed was the idea. To add insult to injury (to me personally), they executed the father of modern chemistry, for "treason" because he didn't agree with their political philosophy at the time.

So to the Girondists, and consequently, the whole right from then on; they wanted to conserve the social hierarchical order and work the reforms and changes within that order, never overturn it. The Jacobins were the ones who wanted to do away with that, and even non-French philosophers like Edmund Burke, a British, saw that what the Jacobins wanted was gonna end up making France worst than it was, and he was right during Robespierre's Reign of Terror.

re:Left ideas - but they could work only in 'ideal conditions' (spherical horses in vacuum so to speak) at best, not counting interferences and various deviations in real world

Not to mention they would backfire within a year or two, *at best* when they implement their philosophy in practice.

At worst, it'll bacfire in a day, lol.

numerous communistic states should have shown very clearly where it ends, but alas ((

Typical "educated" folk who think they are cunningly smart

I am very impressed he put vegans in the same category as nazis and communists.

I thought vegans were a bunch of food socialists who want to ban meat and equally distribute veggies in society.

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do not bring me back to that time with michelle obama

ooo and i found something interesting in twitter

well they're certainly a "special case"

i dont understand why people have twitter bios like this

like no one cares if you're a trans gay nonbinary atheist who supports blm

no one brought it up

The left cares

It's their entire identity after all

on the topic of vegans 😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBTeTpO7qu4&ab_channel=IsaacButterfield

Delete that shit

Disgusting

michelle obama still want to be relevant and you can't stop her

it's true, as much as i wished it isn't

You mean... him @isoboto

Oh my God, what a disgusting bitch.

to be fair some Christians do shame others. I've been told I was the anti-Christ because I said that everybody has their own experiences with God, that not every experience is going to be the same

no way. that's what the church near me told me, though?

but those people are in pretty much every religion

The remnants of the PMRC