Message from @Zoth
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And Nazis were the short term of National Socialist, the Left has Socialists too
Hitler said himself that socialism was only a buzzword in the name
It literally meant nothing
Fascism collaborates with the elite
Idk
Honestly.
I've lost all will to argue in that discord lol
Nazism is frankly not much different from socialism and communism, however what sets it appart from the others is massive racism issues as well as a hyper loyalty to the state
And also, Fascism itself is in part described as. An economic and political system of the marriage between private capitalist industry and the state (which can also otherwise mean the state owns the idustry thus making it a socialist idea under the part of socialism that requires at least 1 sector of the private industry to be controlled by the state), an extreme control of the media to attack and dehumanize the politically incorrect, a racism projected by the upper government class against a group of people, an extreme loyalty towards the state
Is fascism left wing or right wing?
it can come from either side, really
antifa is strongly against right wing fascism while they themselves are left wing fascists
Id say in part due to its economic strategy, Fascism leans left, but its political and socio-political side keepa it from going hard left
The left definitely has more of it, or atleast more vocal fascists
However if you used the euro model of politics, fascism would be leaning right
I just find it laughable that they call themself anti-fascist yet wanna control people’s speech and what they do
They fit just about every slot of the builda-a-fascist, except extreme loyalty to the stste
Antifa has no loyalty to any state
well no shit
However, trust me that when they have any power, they would have extreme loyalty to the state because they dont hate the government, they want to control jt
Anarcho-Communism is just the scariest
Far Authoritarian Left
Anarcho-Communism is something that doesnt make sense in reality, as anarchism is for the demolishment of any and all forms of government however no one has the ability to force their will onto others, which heavily clashes with the natursl authoritarian idea that communism is as for it to work there needs to be a system of authority
The only part of anarchism these antifa want is the disolvment of the government, so they can tske its place as the supreme rulers
Full communism is supposed to have no money, no government, no social classes
communism is for communes
not entire countries
While in theory communism is the very idea of anarchism, it in oractice every time it has been tried beyond very small communities has lead to death and destruction
And is the very anti-thesis to anarchism
There can be left-wing fascism, too. But fascism has been shown to be mostly ultra right wing. It depends, really.
Anarcho-communism is literally just someone wanting communism HERE and NOW, instead of having to wait through 5 Year plans and transition stages and steps and whatever. The second they take “power”, they create communism. Without the necessary socialism, which is the transition between capitalism and communism. Which... is not how it works.
well, i think that's where me and Christianity doesn't compromise. i don't want or think christ has to take on my burden
facism and communism are just the same thing (a coin with two sides)
Yeah... the only difference is who gets to own the means of production and how big the state is in the end.
In rest, they’re the same.
Trump isn't a Dictator and these Commies think they are being oppressed when they really aren't
They think he is because they hate him
If they are so oppressed, how come they speak so much?
Lol
If they were oppressed, they couldn’t speak up at all, right? Or they would be stopped from speaking? But as it seems like, they can speak freely without consequence