@The Guy Behind You even though they have some side, non vacuum sealed places, most particles you will encounter are face on, even though the n95 is more effetive, even a cloth mask heaps

it's difficult to sift through the BS to find the truth

It is true that cloth masks prevent larger particulates from escaping, however it is only the medical grade masks that have the specific permeability that prevents things as small as viruses to make it through

even more difficult when experts use their expertise to manipulate

but they dont seal around your face, which is why in medical settings they use n95 masks with medical grade cloth masks on top of them

yeah, but still the study found double layer cloth masks to be the one who gets 80% effective rates

The proven science is that masks help to prevent the spread when worn by those who are sick, but do not prevent those who are not sick from contracting it

yeah n95 are better, but double layer cloth still work

and its only sterile medical grade masks that have been proven to prevent spread to some degree

@The Guy Behind You ooh because the medical report I read said that it lowered you chances of contracting it by 80%

that is with the sterile medical grade masks because they are designed specifically to have a low permeability

@The Guy Behind You you can sterlize stuff, my doctor told my if you boil them and then wash ;em with soap its good as new

yeah they work much better but cloth ones still work, because they are made of cloath with cloase enough knit

Yes, you can sterilize them by exposing them to temperatures similar to that of a hospitals sterilizing washing machine

the "homemade" or commercially available non-medical masks are not proven to prevent anything other than the spread of major particulates, those which are much larger than whats needed to spread viral infections\

ok, but some are

just look into a mask before you buy it

they are not held to the same standard as medical grade equipment like the blue masks that are out there

yup agreed

and it has been shown that with the typical cloth mask can actually cause side-effects such as mask-mouth

but certain ones that are made well are close

yes because cloth is baetter at absorbing moisture, making it a good breeding groud for bacteria, but if you wash it, it'll be fine

that would be the hope, but the vast majority of people have to reuse their mask and only subject them to the temperatures that their washing machines can produce, which isnt enough to prevent the growth of bacteria\

in a perfect world if those who were sick wore medical grade masks that were sterilized daily, it would mitigate some of the spread, but with everyone being told to wear them no matter what it is actually causing a large detriment to the health of the population

those who are more susceptible to bacterial infections for instance are getting pneumonia at a higher rate with the mass wearing of masks\

just wah your mash and you'll be fine, soap is also super effective against bacteria

wash

funny enough thats the most effective way that a person can prevent themselves from getting sick, due to your hands being the primary spreader of bacteria and viruses

one of the ways people masks get bacteria on them is by touching them with their hands too much\

true, again, just wash them

I think the main thing to take away from the whole mask debate is wear one if youre sick, but its better to stay home. Other than being sick and stopping others from getting it, it wont really prevent you from getting sick

and no one can be mandated to wear one

only way to stop yourself from getting it is possibly with an n95 but dont hog those when our medical professionals need them

Based on Data, the masks definitely aren’t even close to the most effective way to stop the spread either. In order I believe it’s Isolation, Quarantine, Handwashing, Social Distancing, and **THEN** masks. Not that they aren’t effective at all, but they are promoted as these devices of absolute protection. It’s ridiculous. Plus over 80% of people who got COVID were wearing masks anyways. It just doesn’t make sense.

> Based on Data, the masks definitely aren’t even close to the most effective way to stop the spread either. In order I believe it’s Isolation, Quarantine, Handwashing, Social Distancing, and **THEN** masks. Not that they aren’t effective at all, but they are promoted as these devices of absolute protection. It’s ridiculous. Plus over 80% of people who got COVID were wearing masks anyways. It just doesn’t make sense.
@Eagle Right.. when it comes to your ‘run of the mill’ surgical mask, it prevents a virus size of .25 or something along those lines.. and Covid 19’s size is.. wait for it... .003

It’s like trying to stop a bb with a chain link fence.

besides it is possible for the virus to transmit through other orifices, like the eyes

no, actually it is much more like a feild with metal poles spaced every six feet apart and you have to sprint though it blindfolded

> I think the main thing to take away from the whole mask debate is wear one if youre sick, but its better to stay home. Other than being sick and stopping others from getting it, it wont really prevent you from getting sick
@The Guy Behind You My question is.. do you behave like this during flu season? Because Covid 19 is just a nasty flu.. and yeah, some people lost their lives.. my heart goes out to their families... but the numbers the media has been feeding us are false.

also if one gets through thats ok, do we want to talk about viral load?

the less corona in you system the easier it is for your body to respond