yeah it seems to be a massive problem in the US where everything has one side

nothing can be middle ground

you either believe this or believe this... do or don't

and I think where many people have an issue is with the science not coming to a consensus on the general mask wearing of the public

its proven to help in certain circumstances, but also proven to be completely ineffective in others

yeah that is exactly what the WHO says i am sure

if i know what circumstances you are on about

well on the website it does

I mean look at the whole lockdown debate, the WHO now comes out against it but there are still those that believe that lockdowns are the only way to stop the spread

It has shifted to a debate on civil liberties to some people, which then creates more of a political debate about it

It all has to do with which costs you think outweigh the benefits

i mean technically speaking a lockdown would work but this isn't a bubonic plague so

yeah true

it's just the people who take it to the extreme which annoys me

on either side of the coin that is

Yes its a good example, if everyone is locked down in there houses away from people it would significantly stop the spread of the virus. At the same time it causes huge detriments to many other aspects of society. Its more extreme than the cost/benefits of mask wearing but thats why theres more debate on that subject

mask wearing that is

yeah agreed

that's why all it requires is people to be responsible and not stupid

some people see it as "just wear a mask its not that hard" but also some others believe that that viewpoint ignores some of the detriments of wearing the mask. Doesn't apply to everyone of course, but thats why people are against mandatory mask wearing

People should make up their own mind about it based on the evidence they have, thats why its so dangerous for information to be censored

ehhh idk about that

remember when people went on about how 5G turns you into a lizard?

5G towers across the world got attacked

take the stupidest person you know and then imagine 100000x stupider.... that's the kind of people who we are talking about

i swear some people think a mask is a chinese control weapon... they do not weigh the fact if it effective or not

i guarantee

Yeah theres certainly those out there that believe that. I think theres many situations where people take a small bit of truth and run with it to something extreme. But a reason we hear so much about that is because it is shown as an example of what the "opposition" thinks

well idk about that

i really think it's less complicated... it's just that people including me are dumb

and the 5G thing got really bad Facebook for example had to close so many things on it down
that's why censoring information can be vital

you kind of want a little bit of censoring

just to fish out all the extreme stuff

Well there's a difference between censoring harmful information, and censoring opinionated information. If something is against the law it is not protected under freedom of speech, but if someone says something extreme that is only their opinion it is protected under the law

The problem nowadays is that censoring is taking place on opinionated material, not just illegal material

perhaps?

Well take covid for example. If you say something on facebook or twitter that isnt in line with the WHO then you get it removed

even if it is just your opinion

yeah but it's kind of like... what happens if 30 million people read that and then believe a opinion that is wrong

it becomes harmful

like people can get hurt surely?