Message from @Simpnautica
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its the classic slippery slope argument
yeah i mean if you wear a mask in the middle of a field... why are you doing this
but people know when it should be worn it just flies past them
one too many karens crying because they have to put on a mask to get into walmart
like get real
thats where the political polarization comes in. People are seen as either believing fully in masks or completely denying it, when in reality it is in between those view points
yeah it seems to be a massive problem in the US where everything has one side
nothing can be middle ground
you either believe this or believe this... do or don't
and I think where many people have an issue is with the science not coming to a consensus on the general mask wearing of the public
its proven to help in certain circumstances, but also proven to be completely ineffective in others
yeah that is exactly what the WHO says i am sure
if i know what circumstances you are on about
well on the website it does
I mean look at the whole lockdown debate, the WHO now comes out against it but there are still those that believe that lockdowns are the only way to stop the spread
It has shifted to a debate on civil liberties to some people, which then creates more of a political debate about it
It all has to do with which costs you think outweigh the benefits
i mean technically speaking a lockdown would work but this isn't a bubonic plague so
yeah true
it's just the people who take it to the extreme which annoys me
Yes its a good example, if everyone is locked down in there houses away from people it would significantly stop the spread of the virus. At the same time it causes huge detriments to many other aspects of society. Its more extreme than the cost/benefits of mask wearing but thats why theres more debate on that subject
mask wearing that is
yeah agreed
that's why all it requires is people to be responsible and not stupid
some people see it as "just wear a mask its not that hard" but also some others believe that that viewpoint ignores some of the detriments of wearing the mask. Doesn't apply to everyone of course, but thats why people are against mandatory mask wearing
People should make up their own mind about it based on the evidence they have, thats why its so dangerous for information to be censored
ehhh idk about that
remember when people went on about how 5G turns you into a lizard?
5G towers across the world got attacked
take the stupidest person you know and then imagine 100000x stupider.... that's the kind of people who we are talking about
i swear some people think a mask is a chinese control weapon... they do not weigh the fact if it effective or not
i guarantee
Yeah theres certainly those out there that believe that. I think theres many situations where people take a small bit of truth and run with it to something extreme. But a reason we hear so much about that is because it is shown as an example of what the "opposition" thinks
well idk about that
i really think it's less complicated... it's just that people including me are dumb
and the 5G thing got really bad Facebook for example had to close so many things on it down
that's why censoring information can be vital
you kind of want a little bit of censoring
just to fish out all the extreme stuff
Well there's a difference between censoring harmful information, and censoring opinionated information. If something is against the law it is not protected under freedom of speech, but if someone says something extreme that is only their opinion it is protected under the law
The problem nowadays is that censoring is taking place on opinionated material, not just illegal material