Message from @Simpnautica

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2020-10-30 17:17:54 UTC  

ehhh idk about that

2020-10-30 17:18:07 UTC  

remember when people went on about how 5G turns you into a lizard?

2020-10-30 17:18:16 UTC  

5G towers across the world got attacked

2020-10-30 17:19:00 UTC  

take the stupidest person you know and then imagine 100000x stupider.... that's the kind of people who we are talking about

2020-10-30 17:20:00 UTC  

i swear some people think a mask is a chinese control weapon... they do not weigh the fact if it effective or not

2020-10-30 17:20:06 UTC  

i guarantee

2020-10-30 17:20:53 UTC  

Yeah theres certainly those out there that believe that. I think theres many situations where people take a small bit of truth and run with it to something extreme. But a reason we hear so much about that is because it is shown as an example of what the "opposition" thinks

2020-10-30 17:21:47 UTC  

well idk about that

2020-10-30 17:22:04 UTC  

i really think it's less complicated... it's just that people including me are dumb

2020-10-30 17:23:08 UTC  

and the 5G thing got really bad Facebook for example had to close so many things on it down
that's why censoring information can be vital

2020-10-30 17:24:14 UTC  

you kind of want a little bit of censoring

2020-10-30 17:24:27 UTC  

just to fish out all the extreme stuff

2020-10-30 17:26:13 UTC  

Well there's a difference between censoring harmful information, and censoring opinionated information. If something is against the law it is not protected under freedom of speech, but if someone says something extreme that is only their opinion it is protected under the law

2020-10-30 17:27:04 UTC  

The problem nowadays is that censoring is taking place on opinionated material, not just illegal material

2020-10-30 17:27:30 UTC  

perhaps?

2020-10-30 17:28:19 UTC  

Well take covid for example. If you say something on facebook or twitter that isnt in line with the WHO then you get it removed

2020-10-30 17:28:32 UTC  

even if it is just your opinion

2020-10-30 17:29:14 UTC  

yeah but it's kind of like... what happens if 30 million people read that and then believe a opinion that is wrong

2020-10-30 17:29:19 UTC  

it becomes harmful

2020-10-30 17:30:13 UTC  

like people can get hurt surely?

2020-10-30 17:31:16 UTC  

i do wish for freedom of speech but it's really hard to balance the 2 things i feel

2020-10-30 17:31:28 UTC  

That's where people have to use discretion, censoring shouldn't be used to prevent the possibility of subjective harm. It should be used to prevent impending harm

2020-10-30 17:31:37 UTC  

That where physical speech is protected

2020-10-30 17:32:19 UTC  

i totally agree with what you say

2020-10-30 17:32:33 UTC  

but just can't imagine a dude who wouldn't take it out of context

2020-10-30 17:32:37 UTC  

in the entire world

2020-10-30 17:34:05 UTC  

I mean it happens all the time, on or off the internet. People take things out of context all the time, or take certain opinions as fact compared to others. The problem is that governments shouldn't decide that for the people it governs. The issue now is that the corporations are the ones that govern these platforms

2020-10-30 17:34:09 UTC  

what is being discussed here?

2020-10-30 17:34:27 UTC  

Well it started with covid

2020-10-30 17:34:37 UTC  

lol

2020-10-30 17:34:42 UTC  

yeah lol

2020-10-30 17:34:48 UTC  

yeah, quite a bit to unpack that I don't want to lol

2020-10-30 17:34:56 UTC  

it's still kind of covid but

2020-10-30 17:35:10 UTC  

now censorship in regards to covid i guess

2020-10-30 17:35:19 UTC  

Ah

2020-10-30 17:36:15 UTC  

I guess I'll sum it up with this since its a long conversation. Organizations like the WHO are there to provide guidance, not governance

2020-10-30 17:36:43 UTC  

It's not the place of government to force people to do things unless they are proven to be against the law

2020-10-30 17:36:52 UTC  

I agree

2020-10-30 17:37:30 UTC  

Mask wearing is something where the guidance is to wear it, but it is not the place of the government, federal or corporate, to mandate that people comply with the guidance

2020-10-30 17:38:07 UTC  

Yep. Not only that, but they don't do much, considering most people with covid usually wear masks

2020-10-30 17:38:59 UTC  

and now we're onto whether it is correct for facebook and twitter censor info if it doesn't comply with the WHO