Message from @Flame of truth Eros
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lmao
@Mr.Black that’s ultimate enforcement when you believe something, the law is just the consequence, once it’s written on your heart, you’ve already been forced to do by your own conviction, as not doing would go against your belief or morality
for example, the modern church has changed most if not all of its stances on issues such as rape, war, famine , slavery and so forth in the last hundred or two hundred years because the church mimics the morals of the time rather then what is the core belief @Flame of truth Eros
@Mr.Black ok let me ask you a question, why do people have morals , where do they come from, and why do they follow them
morals are usually a reflection of the collective of peoples beliefs in a designated area and as people move or die off the overall collective morals change with time @Flame of truth Eros
we're born with an innate sense of right and wrong
morals are then shaped by our upbringing/enviroment
@Mr.Black where does their collective belief come from?
That's a pretty complicated answer lol
But he just said
Basically
@Andrew The Meme King why? Or is that circular reasoning/not looking deeper into it?
why to what?
@Flame of truth Eros typically comes from envier mental pressures as well as the history of the land/ culture that it is derived from
The human brain has empathetic response programmed into it. That shapes us
one such example is in japan whaling is seen as normal and good, where as places like the us would say that whaling is bad
an innate sense of right and wrong?
they just are
i assume it's an evolutionary thing
@Mr.Black I’m trying to get to the beginning the cause , that’s the answer I’m trying to get from u
It's why psychopaths are the way they are. Not because they lack religion but their brain is disfunctional
@Andrew The Meme King so you don’t know?
the beginning cause of what? morality? @Flame of truth Eros
not to say that innate sense or right and wrong can't be completely side stepped
@ManOWar so what are you saying?
#TheLeft
That the typical behavioral selection process involved with humans since our evolution created the modern moral system @Flame of truth Eros
It seems to me all your positions can be boiled to “that’s the way it is”
I think you're strawmaning our arguments so you can give us a cookie cutter response
Behavioral selection created ethical standards and the near universal understanding that murder is wrong
No
It's a normal thing because it's what nature selects for
@Flame of truth Eros typically comes from envier mental pressures as well as the history of the land/ culture that it is derived from
is not "that's the way it is"
I’ll repeat what I’ve heard from each of you