> but the economy was booming because they went to war
@Atari After reading a book about it, I can give even more insight. War was actually a necessity for Hitler.
That economy was so demanding and unsustainable, that being at war was simply more desirable than being at peace, since war is a great business. That's what saved them from collapsing earlier.

i know

war revived the economy, it does for every country

why do you think we're in the middle east

Idaho doesn't feel as free as I thought it would... It has the exact same mask mandates as California 🥴

Must be all the commies that moved there...

For me it’s more probable to fix California than to move out. But none of which will probably ever happen.

They've been trying to recall newsome but it doesn't seem to be working

@Meryl.140.15 now that Trump has gone through and replaced alot of the judges, maybe something will happen, but I'm not hopeful

We may see a couple little changes in regards to the 2nd amendment, but other then that, I think the conservative base of california has either left, or stopped trying

giving up doesn't seem like an American thing to do

California still has some conservatives but it doesn’t look like we’ll be doing anything any time soon...

@Meryl.140.15 its not like we can fight against it lmao

why not?

We're talking about the federal government here, not a bunch of protesters

Its too late, theyve already broken our spirits here

it's state government

you can vote people out

or in

California has already determined that the rights of the state outweigh votes

right well instead of fighting for their state, they're leaving and ruining other states

not gonna be able to do anything if you jsut give up

which was my point but ok

See, back in the early 2000s, California sent out a vote to see what the citizens thought about legalizing gay marriage, and the vote of overwhelmingly opposed to it, however the governor swept that under the rug and went forth with it anyways

well i'm sure one day you guys will find the strength

or not

Part if me wonders if there's any American Spirit anywhere in this country

idk i dont really feel like arguing about it tbh

Even in the red parts of the country, if antifa came to your main street and began killing and looting, no one would show up to stop them

that's not true since people have already done just that

Where has that happened

uh suburbs

and a town in colorado, their citizens and sheriffs ran blm out

there are places that are fighting back

there was a suburb where blm decided to show up and the people that lived their ran them out

theres a video of a situation recently where blm ran into a building and started cowering

If Americans were still Americans, we would have already gone over to Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, all those places, how could we allow socialist mobs anywhere in this country?

because peopel showed up and contested them

idk ask the democrat leaders

We have gotten so cowardly that we wait until they're on our front lawns

right well im sure you can find the strength to do something in your state