Message from @Ender87

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2020-10-26 17:21:25 UTC  

What's the "precedent"?

2020-10-26 17:21:48 UTC  

Her qualifications.

2020-10-26 17:21:50 UTC  

Super precedent 😉

2020-10-26 17:22:31 UTC  

"Orange" precedent?

2020-10-26 17:24:10 UTC  

Check out Abe Fortas from 1968. Not to plug myself, but I’ve been working on a video compiling it all for perspective for two weeks already. It’s my first real project so it’s taking a long time but it’s nuts to compare the two situations.

2020-10-26 17:25:48 UTC  

I can give you all the major players and such to help you narrow it down but the parallels are insane and when I heard Harris invoke “honest Ane” I was like well yeah, cause the truth is A Tale of TWO Abes.

2020-10-26 17:28:01 UTC  

He was a well-respected attorney from the case of Gideon vs. Wainwright and confirmed a Justice in ‘65 by Johnson. In ‘67 Johnson then confirmed Marshall.

2020-10-26 17:28:52 UTC  

In June of ‘68, the Chief Justice wanted to retire so he warned Johnson to fill his spot to keep a potential Nixon nomination.

2020-10-26 17:29:40 UTC  

Johnson pusher Fortas forward as nominee for Chief, opening himself up a FOURTH seat nomination.

2020-10-26 17:29:55 UTC  

Johnson pusher Fortas forward as nominee for Chief, opening himself up a FOURTH seat nomination.

2020-10-26 17:30:53 UTC  

Then Fortas went before the committee of his own volition and, under oath now, had to admit to some ethical questions.

2020-10-26 17:32:06 UTC  

He admitted to still having regular meetings with the President, disclosing Court discussions during those meetings, and took money from former partners and clients who might have cases come before him.

2020-10-26 17:32:54 UTC  

I think the honest abe thing harris left out the fact that it took time for people to go back and forth to washington. Transportation back then wasn't as good.

2020-10-26 17:33:05 UTC  

I think the honest abe thing harris left out the fact that it took time for people to go back and forth to washington. Transportation back then wasn't as good.

2020-10-26 17:33:08 UTC  

He resigned his seat in May of ‘69 after another financial issue raised more questions of ethics and impartiality.

2020-10-26 17:34:09 UTC  

Oh that’s not even the most disingenuous thing about what she said. Lincoln and everyone in Washington knew he would win cause Sherman took Atlanta between august and September of that year.

2020-10-26 17:34:35 UTC  

And Taney didn’t die until October 12th.

2020-10-26 17:34:56 UTC  

His replacement was confirmed on December 15th. Two days after Sherman reaches the Sea.

2020-10-26 17:35:22 UTC  

Lincoln has no reason to be concerned about the election.

2020-10-26 17:37:42 UTC  

Can the dems use that against acb?

2020-10-26 17:37:55 UTC  

Johnson was so two faced

2020-10-26 17:42:06 UTC  

@SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Not used to well written, thought out discussions here. Kudos! You get a gold star 👍

2020-10-26 17:43:32 UTC  

❤️ History is my jam. And nope. They’re staying so far away from mentioning it cause the only precedent it shows is that the Dems always change the rules when they don’t like the result.

2020-10-26 17:44:03 UTC  

Just look to 1869 for proof that in regards to accusations of “court-packing”.

2020-10-26 17:44:45 UTC  

Grant had full support for his Congress to pass the Circuit Court Act, expanding the SC to 9.

2020-10-26 17:45:59 UTC  

Then, after almost unanimous support for the two new Justices confirmed by 1870, the Court revisited a few divisive decisions, overturned them, and the Dems cried “Court-packing”!!!

2020-10-26 17:46:19 UTC  

Backfired

2020-10-26 17:47:19 UTC  

Also, also...Taney, the guy who’s seat Harris was talking about, openly opposed government intervention on slavery. He personally freed his own, but didn’t want the government involved.

2020-10-26 17:48:02 UTC  

His replacement, Salmon P. Chase, was known in his younger years as the “General of the fugitive slaves”.

2020-10-26 17:49:18 UTC  

So, my rebut to her is, should he have waited at all to replace?

2020-10-26 17:49:43 UTC  

I hope you don't think I'm being forward, CitizenSane, but that's the sexiest thing I've heard a woman say in a long time.

2020-10-26 17:50:20 UTC  

Go take a cold shower

2020-10-26 17:50:21 UTC  

*flashbacks to Mr Hashi*

2020-10-26 17:50:39 UTC  

Lol You’re good. I don’t have many skills but history is seriously my thing.

2020-10-26 17:52:13 UTC  

...Didn't mean to kill the conversation with a little humor. Please, carry on.

2020-10-26 17:54:44 UTC  

🤣🤣🤣

2020-10-26 17:54:57 UTC  

I was driving. Not a great time for paragraphs.

2020-10-26 17:55:40 UTC  

There’s truly so much more to go on about. But even Biden mentions, ever so briefly, about the “Johnson” incident in his ‘92 speech about “court-packing”.

2020-10-26 17:56:03 UTC  

And that’s the only speech I regard as genuine out of them all cause no seat was even on the line when he made it.

2020-10-26 17:56:07 UTC  

Oh the "bonehead move" speech

2020-10-26 17:56:37 UTC  

Thomas was confirmed before it and RBG after by Clinton in ‘93. So, it’s the only one from then till now I truly find honest...or at least, mostly genuine.