Message from @Tel Locus

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2020-06-23 11:25:50 UTC  

than you Billy

2020-06-23 11:26:06 UTC  

?

2020-06-23 11:26:17 UTC  

Bill Clinton's impeachment case

2020-06-23 11:26:24 UTC  

Welcome, <@!248602935330603008>.

2020-06-23 11:26:36 UTC  

they ruled that perjury isn't enough of an offense to be impeachmment over

2020-06-23 11:26:59 UTC  

found it, the Samuel Chase impeachment trial

2020-06-23 11:26:59 UTC  

I was referring to Judges being removed/impeached for abiding to political influence

2020-06-23 11:27:23 UTC  

They are not suppose to be political in any way.

2020-06-23 11:27:30 UTC  

That's why they have the terms they have.

2020-06-23 11:28:14 UTC  

basically Samuel Chase was tried for ruling with political bais

2020-06-23 11:28:24 UTC  

Ohhh

2020-06-23 11:28:28 UTC  

I see now

2020-06-23 11:28:50 UTC  

He was the CJ for the Clinton trial

2020-06-23 11:28:52 UTC  

?

2020-06-23 11:29:01 UTC  

I honestly don't know who the CJ was at that time.

2020-06-23 11:29:07 UTC  

CJ?

2020-06-23 11:29:12 UTC  

Chief Justice.

2020-06-23 11:29:27 UTC  

no gods no, Samuel Chase was a Jefferson era judge

2020-06-23 11:29:48 UTC  

yeah that guy

2020-06-23 11:30:30 UTC  

I spent ages combing through old records reading up on that case

2020-06-23 11:32:04 UTC  

William Rehnquist...He was CJ

2020-06-23 11:32:12 UTC  

yeah

2020-06-23 11:32:13 UTC  

During the Clinton Impeachment trial

2020-06-23 11:32:28 UTC  

sorry if I got confusing trying to info dump before work

2020-06-23 11:33:09 UTC  

overall the chase impeachment trials kinda make it hard to remove judges for political bias

2020-06-23 11:35:02 UTC  

Seems to me that in the Chase case, political bias wouldn't count under "high crimes and misdemeanors" and wasn't an "indictable offense".

2020-06-23 11:37:13 UTC  

Ideally, though, judges should be impartial...

2020-06-23 11:37:25 UTC  

Though I'm definitely not a lawyer just like legal smackdowns

2020-06-23 11:37:36 UTC  

Flynn did a doozy a few days ago

2020-06-23 11:38:40 UTC  

I honestly didn't keep up with it. What was the doozy?

2020-06-23 11:39:02 UTC  

The response just hammered the Amicus

2020-06-23 11:39:23 UTC  

Just read through the Case impeachment trial... yeah that doesn't just suck, it's actually scary.

2020-06-23 11:39:52 UTC  

And then cited the same judge that wrote it as to why everything should be dropped

2020-06-23 11:41:21 UTC  

Still though, a Judge cannot use a prosecutor to give an anecdotal backlash and most certainly cannot ACT as a prosecutor. These 2 things are now textbook illegal and go into indictment territory. This Judge Sullivan is playing with fire.

2020-06-23 11:41:42 UTC  

The former of what I mentioned was ruled into law by the Surpreme Court about a month ago.

2020-06-23 11:41:53 UTC  

it's in the conclusion

2020-06-23 11:42:43 UTC  

I would love to see the DoJ actually go after Judge Sullivan with indictments 🤣

2020-06-23 11:43:00 UTC  

They have sufficient public record to do it.

2020-06-23 11:43:36 UTC  

A federal judge once wrote:
[A] prosecutor can do justice by the simple act of going back
into court and agreeing that justice should be done. * * *
It is easy to be a tough prosecutor. Prosecutors are almost
never criticized for being aggressive, or for fighting hard to
obtain the maximum sentence, or for saying "there's
nothing we can do" about an excessive sentence after all
avenues of judicial relief have been exhausted. Doing
justice can be much harder. It takes time and involves
work, including careful consideration of the circumstances
of particular crimes, defendants, and victims—and often
the relevant events occurred in the distant past. It requires
a willingness to make hard decisions, including some that
will be criticized.
This case is a perfect example. * * *
By contrast, the decision []he has made required
considerable work. Assistant United States Attorney . . .
had to retrieve and examine a[n] . . . old case file. . . . He
requested and obtained an adjournment so his office could
have the time necessary to make an extremely important
decision. United States Attorneys' offices work with limited
resources. The effort that went into deciding whether to
agree to vacate [two counts against defendant] could have
been devoted to other cases. * * *
This is a significant case, and not just for [the defendant].
It demonstrates the difference between a Department of
Prosecutions and a Department of Justice. It shows how
the Department of Justice, as the government's
representative in every federal criminal case, has the
power to walk into courtrooms and ask judges to remedy
injustices.