3rd parties only have a chance at local and minimal state levels

The 2 party system failing us @Dstar_Destroyer

Blowing people up, they blew themselves up 🤣

@Deleted User the point was though that it isnt cancer

Not cool @Inevitable DOOM . Think rationally.

You have to be a certified dumbass to cross a border with minefields.

its an interesting though, but guaranteed to never happen. our country isnt full of people who want to fight the elites, theres quite a few people who just want their side to win, and will never be persuaded not too.

No one would cross that border. That is rational.

@Wardog not voting does nothing for the presidency. Your electoral delegate determines that for you.

I think that people voting in 3rd party, the more Trumpian candidates who are on the putside and arent apart of either party will havea better chance at changing things then just by not voting

Besides voting generally really only matters in your state, county

Trump is a false populist and his low deportation numbers are also a concern

Also, former democrat. Kek

@Dstar_Destroyer the electoral college delegates may pledge their votes to whomever they choose. Regardless of the majority census within their district.

When I was kid I remember everyone not trusting the government, but it seems like, as wardog said, that people just want their party to win

@Inevitable DOOM Many of us are Former Democrats. Myself included.

@Dstar_Destroyer the only problem I can't work past is that if it went faction like say hungergames, it would eventually turn that way for the factions to earn a spot to speak that time

Yes, hence why I said that voting truly only matters in state or county elections

Im neither Republican nor Democrat. Im so far right I make them both look like communists

We dont need the factions like,it is in the UK, we just need more then two parties that can win

LMAO

i just let the youtube auto play

Agreed. Federal level needs go back to their days of not being paid to make laws and bills all-day, but have normal lives and work normal jobs

and it's playing the whole Trump speach\ at CPAC

That would change a lot of things

lol

@Dstar_Destroyer in which they determine their own policies based on money. Donations are a big political motivator.

I'm for small government, federal and state level

Wouldnt it be awesome if politicians were jailed for accepting donations and payouts from lobbyists?

Money is a huge motivator, how would we get around it

Both the republicans and Democrats are bad imo

Woodrow Wilson was the problem for why they are disconnected from the rest of us, they don't see the problems like we do

If states controlled more the federal government wouldn't be so corrupt and not as much money would be in play for politicians

@Dstar_Destroyer remove lobbyists

They control it all. They buy the politicians.

@Speshel Pandaz agreed. I'm independent all the way. I was libertarian, and I agree with the beliefs, but don't want affiliated with any party directly anymorem

Trump is just as much of a lobbyist's bitch as Obama was.

Key example Bernie who calls out millionaires while he owns at least two houses

I'm just trying to make sure you,have some ideas to solve the issues you see, instead of just complaining ironman, and,yes lobbyists should be removed

I’m a centrist

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