Message from @Speshel Pandaz

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2020-06-30 02:06:02 UTC  

Besides voting generally really only matters in your state, county

2020-06-30 02:06:06 UTC  

Trump is a false populist and his low deportation numbers are also a concern

2020-06-30 02:06:28 UTC  

Also, former democrat. Kek

2020-06-30 02:06:32 UTC  

@Dstar_Destroyer the electoral college delegates may pledge their votes to whomever they choose. Regardless of the majority census within their district.

2020-06-30 02:06:40 UTC  

When I was kid I remember everyone not trusting the government, but it seems like, as wardog said, that people just want their party to win

2020-06-30 02:06:46 UTC  

@Inevitable DOOM Many of us are Former Democrats. Myself included.

2020-06-30 02:06:59 UTC  

@Dstar_Destroyer the only problem I can't work past is that if it went faction like say hungergames, it would eventually turn that way for the factions to earn a spot to speak that time

2020-06-30 02:07:01 UTC  

Yes, hence why I said that voting truly only matters in state or county elections

2020-06-30 02:07:13 UTC  

Im neither Republican nor Democrat. Im so far right I make them both look like communists

2020-06-30 02:07:33 UTC  

We dont need the factions like,it is in the UK, we just need more then two parties that can win

2020-06-30 02:07:33 UTC  

LMAO

2020-06-30 02:07:37 UTC  

i just let the youtube auto play

2020-06-30 02:07:39 UTC  

Agreed. Federal level needs go back to their days of not being paid to make laws and bills all-day, but have normal lives and work normal jobs

2020-06-30 02:07:57 UTC  

and it's playing the whole Trump speach\ at CPAC

2020-06-30 02:08:00 UTC  

That would change a lot of things

2020-06-30 02:08:00 UTC  

lol

2020-06-30 02:08:23 UTC  

@Dstar_Destroyer in which they determine their own policies based on money. Donations are a big political motivator.

2020-06-30 02:08:33 UTC  

I'm for small government, federal and state level

2020-06-30 02:08:57 UTC  

Wouldnt it be awesome if politicians were jailed for accepting donations and payouts from lobbyists?

2020-06-30 02:09:00 UTC  

Money is a huge motivator, how would we get around it

2020-06-30 02:09:00 UTC  

Both the republicans and Democrats are bad imo

2020-06-30 02:09:06 UTC  

Woodrow Wilson was the problem for why they are disconnected from the rest of us, they don't see the problems like we do

2020-06-30 02:09:09 UTC  

If states controlled more the federal government wouldn't be so corrupt and not as much money would be in play for politicians

2020-06-30 02:09:11 UTC  

@Dstar_Destroyer remove lobbyists

2020-06-30 02:09:27 UTC  

They control it all. They buy the politicians.

2020-06-30 02:09:53 UTC  

@Speshel Pandaz agreed. I'm independent all the way. I was libertarian, and I agree with the beliefs, but don't want affiliated with any party directly anymorem

2020-06-30 02:09:54 UTC  

Trump is just as much of a lobbyist's bitch as Obama was.

2020-06-30 02:09:57 UTC  

Key example Bernie who calls out millionaires while he owns at least two houses

2020-06-30 02:10:00 UTC  

I'm just trying to make sure you,have some ideas to solve the issues you see, instead of just complaining ironman, and,yes lobbyists should be removed

2020-06-30 02:10:16 UTC  

I’m a centrist

2020-06-30 02:10:21 UTC  

I’ve been a conservative since I was like 7

2020-06-30 02:10:47 UTC  

My most liberal belief was that I just to fully believe in climate change

2020-06-30 02:10:50 UTC  

I've been a Conservative since 2015.

2020-06-30 02:10:50 UTC  

@Dstar_Destroyer oh Im complaining? Yet i just solved the problem woth one single statement. And you even quoted it. Please think a bit here, yes?

2020-06-30 02:11:36 UTC  

I couldn't be in the voice chat. Been drinking, no one wants that 😂

2020-06-30 02:11:37 UTC  

No no, I'm kust saying you are calling out problems in government and I wanted to see if you had solutions, that is all

2020-06-30 02:11:42 UTC  

@Ironman Based as fuck

2020-06-30 02:11:43 UTC  

i've been a conservative since 2015 as well. Not so much because my views changed as liberals veered so far left that I'm left in the conservative column with my once mainstream left beliefs

2020-06-30 02:12:12 UTC  

@Deplorable Me Same. They just went a bit too far left.

2020-06-30 02:12:20 UTC  

The solution is to remove the lobbyists. Always has been, always will be. Do that and George Soros will be panhandling next to Pelosi