eg. if you teleport someone by deleting and reconstructing "them", is it still them?

@DrewDaPilot actually its kinda the opposite
society is held together by a social contractthat being if you agree not to cause trouble you are granted certain benifits (this can be seen in the idea of citizenship benifits)

if it was greed, there would be no society

I said evolutionary greed

in the sense that we evolved social connections to benefit the individual

wait really

> @DrewDaPilot actually its kinda the opposite
> society is held together by a social contractthat being if you agree not to cause trouble you are granted certain benifits (this can be seen in the idea of citizenship benifits)
>
> if it was greed, there would be no society
@GOF6666 amen

there is no proof for evolution

true

Consider:
Place a ladder in a monkey cage with a banana on top. Rig the top rungs to trigger a water sprinkler any time a monkey climbs it.
A few monkeys will climb and take the banana. Eventually, the monkeys realize the water sprinkler cuts on, and start beating up any monkey that tries to climb the ladder.
Once they've all stopped climbing the ladder, start replacing monkeys with new ones one at a time. The new ones will attempt to climb, and get beat up. Keep doing this until all of the original monkeys have been replaced.
You now have a cage of monkeys who refuse to climb the ladder, with no idea why.

That's where we find ourselves with much of our modern wisdom, tradition, and values.
Progressives keep pointing at the banana and asking why we don't just grab it, and conservatives don't know the whole answer, they just know it's a bad idea.

still vague af

"aware of ones surroundings"

a pig is aware of its surroundings

so by that definition, a pig is objectively conscious

true

but its not as aware as humans

we can sense better than pigs

@cuddlycactus21 true, most proof of evolution is anectdotal but regardless, humans "developed" the ability to communicate

the last definition is best

if communication didnt benefit humans, they wouldnt have spent time learning how to make languages and stuff

God made languages at the tower of bable

babel

i believe that the mind evolved in a sense that humans became smarter

Corn pop story

an "evolution isnt proven" argument make me dissent my opinion

dolphins and elephants are two of the main ones, I mean, look at some of the things theyve taught gorillas, monkeys, and other primates. Koko that was able to communicate in American sign language... Hell, check out Stella the Dog and BilliSpeaks (old house cat) on youtube... their owners are teaching them how to commuincate with them in english using buttons on the floor that when pressed, say an english word. one time Stella the Dog's "beach" button broke, and she had to figure out how to tell her owner she wanted to go to the beach, so she pushed the buttons "Stella" "Go" "Water" "Outside" to communicate that thought. a completely unique sentence for her... because the "Water" button had only ever been used to describe the water in her water bowl, the stuff she drinks, and somehow she made the connection that the water at the beach, though a bit different, is the same kind of thing as the water in her bowl.

hey hey if there was a species on earth smarter than us we would not be sentient in their eyes as they make the criteria

Corn pop was a bad dude, cmon man

religion puts me in a hard philosophical place

cuz your wrong

because I honestly think theres a mental aspect to it, but I cant explain exactly how

there is no "wrong" in regards to religion

yes

> cuz your wrong
@cuddlycactus21 thats hard to defend

calling other people wrong simply because they dissent from your opinion is disgustingly arrogant

if you dont believe the bible, then you dont believe the truth and therefore you are wrong

are you a troll?

no

dude what

tell me how a piece of writing is "truth"

the bible isnt the truth to us, so youre wrong. this is pushing the bounds of zealotry to me.