Then be the villain.

i don't want a weak 12 year old bladder

"You want some money for that new game? Where's your report card? How many As did you get?"

well i think you've already got your answer then

you were the villain before the separation and now it's only getting worse

^

luckily if you just treat him decently you always have a chance when hes older, thinking like 22 range

What's going on? Young'un needs mentoring?

i take by my earlier comment, in this situation scorched earth might be best, at least with the mother

No, his kid's a distilled cunt because of his mother's ultra refined cuntery.

And he comes from a society.

So, you know, the rest of the narrative.

@omr Unfortunately I suspect that he suffers Parental Alienation Syndrome. He empathizes with his mother and sees you as the enemy.

PAS = POS with a typo

i've also known you 5minutes and im diagnosing you with not enough frame

Sometimes it's confusion. Each parent telling a different story from the other. You don't know who to trust.

The beatings must continue until morale improves.

lol.

@omr I think you should try having some good times with both your kids instead of buying them stuff. Maybe you could win him back through his sister. Who knows?

The kid isn't listening to his dads side of the story

Why would he? Mommy said Daddy is evil

Mommy never lies

D:

1 outa 2 aint bad anyway, just be the best dad you can be to the kid who gives you the time of day

Yeah. Having a good relationship with at least on of your kids is better than nothing. My guess is that mommy, in all of her goodness, will play favorites in response.

And treat the one with you like shit.

@ResolvingParadox13 yes, I am already stating to see that. So I think I should try and focus on my daughter and try to save her at least.

Believe me, once indoctrinated, a man is far easy to bring back with logic and reason than a woman.

Think ddj has a guide what to do in that situation

Did we torrent DDJ's shit?

before he turned

Write letters to the kid at different times and when he grows up give them to the kid to let him form his own opinion

yeah.

I remember that

And keep your daughter close...

Before he turned to the cuck side?

Can't take the opportunities you have right now for granted IMO.

So build relationships where you can! Is my advice.

@Space wix Yeah. I'm not the only one who remembers that? lol

DDJ's shit? Is there some material which could educate me? I

@omr My mom and dad basically underwent what you're talking about. I'm the product of that. My dad fought hard to stay in our lives. To this day, it's the reason I didn't cut him out of my life entirely.