i see a less hostile version of malicious compliance as the only option

more of a im not going to be your atm but if you want to hangout ill play magic

Have you considered organ donation?

@AntonioD Comics&illustrations it has always been like this. I was fighting my own war with his mother for so many years because she was abusing me mentally with her shaming tactics. So I was deeply depressed because of her behavior. And then on top of that her manipulating my son and her family members to think bad of my. So I wad always the villain.

I'm pretty sure someone would appreciate fresh, 12 yr old organs.

Then be the villain.

i don't want a weak 12 year old bladder

"You want some money for that new game? Where's your report card? How many As did you get?"

well i think you've already got your answer then

you were the villain before the separation and now it's only getting worse

^

luckily if you just treat him decently you always have a chance when hes older, thinking like 22 range

What's going on? Young'un needs mentoring?

i take by my earlier comment, in this situation scorched earth might be best, at least with the mother

No, his kid's a distilled cunt because of his mother's ultra refined cuntery.

And he comes from a society.

So, you know, the rest of the narrative.

@omr Unfortunately I suspect that he suffers Parental Alienation Syndrome. He empathizes with his mother and sees you as the enemy.

PAS = POS with a typo

i've also known you 5minutes and im diagnosing you with not enough frame

Sometimes it's confusion. Each parent telling a different story from the other. You don't know who to trust.

The beatings must continue until morale improves.

lol.

@omr I think you should try having some good times with both your kids instead of buying them stuff. Maybe you could win him back through his sister. Who knows?

The kid isn't listening to his dads side of the story

Why would he? Mommy said Daddy is evil

Mommy never lies

D:

1 outa 2 aint bad anyway, just be the best dad you can be to the kid who gives you the time of day

Yeah. Having a good relationship with at least on of your kids is better than nothing. My guess is that mommy, in all of her goodness, will play favorites in response.

And treat the one with you like shit.

@ResolvingParadox13 yes, I am already stating to see that. So I think I should try and focus on my daughter and try to save her at least.

Believe me, once indoctrinated, a man is far easy to bring back with logic and reason than a woman.

Think ddj has a guide what to do in that situation

Did we torrent DDJ's shit?

before he turned

Write letters to the kid at different times and when he grows up give them to the kid to let him form his own opinion

yeah.

I remember that

And keep your daughter close...

Before he turned to the cuck side?