Message from @Tex
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Only reason Hillary won the popular vote was because of California
i care because pop vote would ruin the country
Look at the map of the 2016 election by county, and then realize that even though damn near the whole country was red, Hillary still won the popular vote
That basically means you don’t care if your vote is counted
the thing is electoral college forces a candidate to win different regions of the country with different cultural identities and different type of mindset
> Only reason Hillary won the popular vote was because of California
@Mr.Hashi#6960 but republicans would be so much more likely to vote it Cali if their vote actually mattered
If California wasn’t in the equation, trump would won by 1-2 million votes
like trump won the rust belt the south the great plains he even won an electoral vote up in maine
But California matters, just because they are liberal doesn’t matter
The fact that cities arent able to self sustain is why I think if any conflict does arise, it wont last long as the rural portions will cut off cities of supplies and then the cities will be unable to do shit cus they'll be fighting themselves more than anything
But you dont always win electoral college
You do if you win
Just because there are more people in California doesn’t mean Cali should decide what happens in oregan and Idaho and Utah
i mean republicans need to really work up the minority vote so they can actually get more than 30% in california
For some reason a lot of people don't realize that we aren't a strict democracy. We're a democratic republic.
i really wish i could just say things and not have somebody argue about it occasionally, you know?
I wouldnt even say that it's more republic than anything else
some things you just can't talk about without someone gettin all up in ther
What’s the problem with 51 percent of the general population deciding the election? If your argument is ‘well 51 percent is liberal and stupid’ I would argue that that is not a good argument, just republicans being afraid of being outnumbered.
That’s not the point
The point is 51% of the population in two cities shouldn’t decide what happens in 48 states that are opposite them and have a different climate
My point is 51 percent can be won just with California and NY, so if all you need to cater to are the people in those places, it screws over everyone else
Cus you can cripple a presidential election by controlling the senate and or house
well cali and new york are not the majority of the population
And vice versa
they are around 60 out of 320 million
> The point is 51% of the population in two cities shouldn’t decide what happens in 48 states that are opposite them and have a different climate
@Draconem_Dominus > My point is 51 percent can be won just with California and NY, so if all you need to cater to are the people in those places, it screws over everyone else
@mikeflarkin ok, both of those are good arguments, haven’t actually heard those before
It doesn’t matter what party they are
Imagine if Cali was broken up into 3 states, 2 of em would be red
It’s just unfair to anyone not in those cities who’s vote won’t count
Think about the gun laws in those two places, for example.
Then dont live there
looked into jo jorgenson, while she definitely wont win i agree with most of her agenda. damn.
also republicans do really need to get up and go into the urban areas and get votes there
like getting 10-15% in cities is embarassing
Even if Cali and NY were repub I’d want the EC
Early voting already has Trump leading in alot of places
The EC means everyone gets an equal say
Voting after November 3rd is kinda sus
And the highest % of conservatives vote in person anyway