The true freedom of "if you don't want to be a part of our country we are going to drag you back with a brutal war"

> @newt-gecko-goat the south seceded over it
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> the south *left* and the south wasn't gicing it up
@AMERICANFREEDOM [CEO OF FREEDOM] they would have lost everything to cheaper farming methods. But they should have worked it out. I honestly hope I never have to kill an American, even if they have horrible difference of opinions

These arnt Americans anymore

They gave up that title when they started burning our flags

I mean the south kinda had it in their name, confederate states of america

wow really, yes lets keep slavery, slavery good yay go work the cotten fields!!!!! stop when i say so!!!


wow is see what you mean goob, thats so much more free

> These arnt Americans anymore
@KingZapapple they still are according to the constitution which makes our country what it is

for the owners not the slaves that is

They would burn our constitution if they got their hands on it

Slaveholders were literally like .01% of the population

And the union literally had slave states

True

Plus lincoln said he woulda won the war with or without freeing slaves

Man taken out of context the left would try and murder me rn

> The true freedom of "if you don't want to be a part of our country we are going to drag you back with a brutal war"
@Mcgoober I can tell that we have differing opinions of this, and neither of us will change our minds. I agree that the war was bloody, and unjust. Yet it was necessary. The Civil war was a dark place in our history, the darkest of all. Yet it happened, and all we can do it see it for the good it produced. I believe that our nation could not be the beacon of freedom it is today without the sacrufices of the civil war.

> wow really, yes lets keep slavery, slavery good yay go work the cotten fields!!!!! stop when i say so!!!
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> wow is see what you mean goob, thats so much more free
@AMERICANFREEDOM [CEO OF FREEDOM] I don't like slavery. But the way they let people free with nothing was actually worse than them staying in the plantations until they could get something together

Also the north thought the war was gonna be over in a few weeks and the emancipation proclamation was only given like 3 years into it<:KEK:726877368601411624>

And after the war the union pretty much refused to offer any kind of actual support for freedmen so many confederate officers started schools for them<:KEK:726877368601411624>

Wait isnt what happend in Civil war 1 just repeating it self but roles flipped?

Setting a slave free is kinda like setting an inmate free. They don't know what to do in the real world. No marketable skills. No safety net. No hope for most

The north literally just came, said "ur free now have fun" and left

@newt-gecko-goat Like setting a liberal free after watching candice owens or larry elder

@Mcgoober so keeping slavery around was better?

Uh no

Tru but that was a few centrys ago so all consequences are neglatable

It's literally one of the worst crimes a human can commit

alright....... so then its good slavery was ended, yes, which means it was good the confederates lost

But that's not how that works

> Wait isnt what happend in Civil war 1 just repeating it self but roles flipped?
@KingZapapple kinda. Only 1% of the south owned slaves. The common people were actually fighting for the political values of the wealthiest

Mostly that since in america you can start in a family with negative money amd still become successful so family wealth history doesnt matter much

Hey cleet we might be so poor we have to sell our houses to buy a rifle but you wanna march to war so that rich guy over there can keep his slaves instead of paying somebody to do it

alright i'm confused what were debating on now and what side your touting for xD @Mcgoober

Most of them fought because their votes had no effect even though they should have won

That was sarcasm cuz nobody in their right mind would fight for that

> Mostly that since in america you can start in a family with negative money amd still become successful so family wealth history doesnt matter much
@KingZapapple lots of people start families with negative income. It's called welfare. It discourages nuclear family and encourages single motherhood

ah so are we back on the "dont think they only fought for slavery" alright i'm done see you all later what I say is being ignored '

Yall think in 100years history books will be calling the right the evil racists of the south who tried to become dictators all because the history books are always skewed

But the north having slave states takes a fat shit on that whole narrative alone

> @KingZapapple lots of people start families with negative income. It's called welfare. It discourages nuclear family and encourages single motherhood
@newt-gecko-goat
We agree than

> ah so are we back on the "dont think they only fought for slavery" alright i'm done see you all later what I say is being ignored '
@AMERICANFREEDOM [CEO OF FREEDOM] I'm just saying. All of the confederate soldiers were not slave owners

Actually barely any were