Message from @Dark
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Says the man with a Confederate flag and soldier in his pfp
I just don't much like people demonizing an entire country that hundreds of thousands died to protect because looking at it through a modern lense makes it look bad
Entire country??? You mean the confederacy....
... they literally fought for slaves.
Uh wot?
@Mcgoober I think you’re getting crap mixed up and making assumptions about my views
Yeah they did and that was totally a part of it but it woulda been worked out even if the south had won
Hes referring to all the people who demonize the US and burn the flag in the streets even after all the people who died protecting the freedom those same people enjoy, I think that's what he meant
No im not lol I'm talking about ripping down rebel statues and shit
No, I think he means the people who died for the confederate army
> Yeah they did and that was totally a part of it but it woulda been worked out even if the south had won
@Mcgoober woulda worked out? Well due to what they fought for I have a doubt about that
Oh well yeah that's part of American history
Even Robert E Lee was against slavery
I’m not arguing that all confederates are evil, but the group as a whole fought for negative goals
> Oh well yeah that's part of American history
@Tex no it’s not... that’s a part of the confederacy’s history which doesn’t even exist anymore. Those states left the union. America fought against that
The vast majority of the rebel army didnt even have any connections to slavery
People forget that slavery was a strategic tool used by the north to damage the already minimal production capabilities the south had
There were literally rebel marching songs shit talking slave owners for being fat and lazy<:KEK:726877368601411624>
yeah the states that seceded and then rejoined the US just happened to be the same as those currently and previously involved in the war
I mean I can understand the view point of there being a nobility to the "soldier" of time period, doing one's "duty" sure. But I think there's conflation of the entire movement being noble or whatever
huge leap of logic for you, i know
> There were literally rebel marching songs shit talking slave owners for being fat and lazy<:KEK:726877368601411624>
@Mcgoober Great I guess those folks never made it to join the north cus they clearly were on the wrong side as history tells us
Slavery was NOT why the civil war started
> People forget that slavery was a strategic tool used by the north to damage the already minimal production capabilities the south had
@Tex except that the only reason that the slaves could be used like that was because the south refused to modernize in technology
It's ok tho i still ly radioman even if ur a smelly yank <3
> Slavery was NOT why the civil war started
@Tex bruh I get you must like the south but acknowledging these facts doesn’t mean the south is a bad place
Ok so hear me out
Why would lincoln wait 3 years into a war he thought would end in weeks to actually free the slaves
Here’s the deal (Biden phrase) the democrats were ruling the south my bois.... now we rule it. Times have changed
> Why would lincoln wait 3 years into a war he thought would end in weeks to actually free the slaves
@Mcgoober war wasn’t about slavery it was to preserve the Union
Ik
Because he never wanted to truly divide the Nation and definitively make the war about slavery. So doing that would've countered his ultimate goal in his mind.
That's why there were desertions and riots after the proclamation<:KEK:726877368601411624>
Lincoln stated that if he could’ve ended the war without freeing the slaves he would’ve
He was about Restoration more than anything else in that regard.
"Oh shit i signed up to reunite the country not free those guys I'm outtie"
> Why would lincoln wait 3 years into a war he thought would end in weeks to actually free the slaves
@Mcgoober it was a very political thing... he couldn’t go all out like that or nothing would happen. He was on the verge of a re-election, he woulda lost it
Almost like it was an unpopular idea at the time