might does NOT make right. it does however win the fight.

> bruh the confederacy fought for slaves. There is no denying that
@SamTheG exactly

I'm doing it rn tho

i like that someone whose username is literally corn pop is declaring to me their personal opinion as fact

Corn pop was a bad dude

1812 is a good counter example to 1778

@SamTheG the problem is @Mcgoober finds alliance with the south. As do I. The difference is he accepts past things which alined with the south. He’s living in a time before

No I'm not all that shit is water under the bridge lol

Well I agree of course it is... dont change history though just due to your liking of the south

Says the man with a Confederate flag and soldier in his pfp

I just don't much like people demonizing an entire country that hundreds of thousands died to protect because looking at it through a modern lense makes it look bad

Entire country??? You mean the confederacy....

... they literally fought for slaves.

Uh wot?

@Mcgoober I think you’re getting crap mixed up and making assumptions about my views

Yeah they did and that was totally a part of it but it woulda been worked out even if the south had won

Hes referring to all the people who demonize the US and burn the flag in the streets even after all the people who died protecting the freedom those same people enjoy, I think that's what he meant

No im not lol I'm talking about ripping down rebel statues and shit

No, I think he means the people who died for the confederate army

> Yeah they did and that was totally a part of it but it woulda been worked out even if the south had won
@Mcgoober woulda worked out? Well due to what they fought for I have a doubt about that

Oh well yeah that's part of American history

Even Robert E Lee was against slavery

I’m not arguing that all confederates are evil, but the group as a whole fought for negative goals

> Oh well yeah that's part of American history
@Tex no it’s not... that’s a part of the confederacy’s history which doesn’t even exist anymore. Those states left the union. America fought against that

The vast majority of the rebel army didnt even have any connections to slavery

People forget that slavery was a strategic tool used by the north to damage the already minimal production capabilities the south had

There were literally rebel marching songs shit talking slave owners for being fat and lazy<:KEK:726877368601411624>

yeah the states that seceded and then rejoined the US just happened to be the same as those currently and previously involved in the war

I mean I can understand the view point of there being a nobility to the "soldier" of time period, doing one's "duty" sure. But I think there's conflation of the entire movement being noble or whatever

huge leap of logic for you, i know

> There were literally rebel marching songs shit talking slave owners for being fat and lazy<:KEK:726877368601411624>
@Mcgoober Great I guess those folks never made it to join the north cus they clearly were on the wrong side as history tells us

Slavery was NOT why the civil war started

> People forget that slavery was a strategic tool used by the north to damage the already minimal production capabilities the south had
@Tex except that the only reason that the slaves could be used like that was because the south refused to modernize in technology

It's ok tho i still ly radioman even if ur a smelly yank <3

> Slavery was NOT why the civil war started
@Tex bruh I get you must like the south but acknowledging these facts doesn’t mean the south is a bad place

> @Tex bruh I get you must like the south but acknowledging these facts doesn’t mean the south is a bad place
@Lambton I live in the north, have my whole life so I'm not some southern pride kinda person

> @Tex bruh I get you must like the south but acknowledging these facts doesn’t mean the south is a bad place
@Lambton I couldn’t agree more, the modern south is a wonderful place, I personally LOVE Louisiana, the south has come a long way!

Ok so hear me out

Why would lincoln wait 3 years into a war he thought would end in weeks to actually free the slaves

Here’s the deal (Biden phrase) the democrats were ruling the south my bois.... now we rule it. Times have changed