or doesn't <:dogekek:726878872607653918>

True, I'm willing to bet

I mean to be fair we all make decisions emotionally, really and really I think our goals in many cases are the same. "Make life better for the community/country." But yes people want to short cut the logic

yeah

Well obviously

The first reaction is emotional

Well yes, but we need to take in account that we can't use emotion to make a statement that impacts alot people. We need logic and facts to make sure it's good for the people.

can i just comment it is good to see peaceful civil discussion on this. I imagine it could get very aggressive very quickly

Oh of course but we tend to argue the underlying 'fact' without appealing to the actual sentiment

e.g. why do we like free(er) markets? Because it's good for us and bad for them? No because it provides opportunity for everyone

Yeah, but many perhaps settle on making a statement that benefits themselves.

Dude, that's what everyone who is republican, some liberals, not far right, say.

I would disagree most of them look at it as "self protection"

So the message is being lost

Leftism is a mental disorder

Like most of my lefty arguments will end in "You'll be fine, you can afford more taxes"

just joining... could u define "liberalism" quick?

Or similar attempt - and that's not the issue.

so im on the same page

finally a non-lefty discord server

So I told my parents I wanted to be a politician

ppl seem to think of it differentl..

Well, if having a free market benefits overall, not saying it's perfect, why would we need a structure were, many events, show fails the population, some pushing for socialism.

because if another 1000$ a year actually "solved all world problems" why not throw in to the pot

But it doesn't

@Hibernian Raptor-Lord there are many definitions and it depends on the context of the conversation

They said “no you can’t be a politician”

I asked why

They said

yh in this context

“Because you can’t lie”<:KEK:726877368601411624>

LOL

I was able to convince a friend that the things they heard about Trump were not completely so, at least

Dang bro, so true.

chat is referring to liberals as people that align with the left side of the political spectrum

Currently, i presume, as opposed to classically. Because "the left" is ot what it was.

*not

Not primarily, a liberal is not a far right activist. But many people associate with them.

Shit I’ll take another 1000 a year 😂

Why the fuck complain about that

inflation mainly achilles