Notice this statement, and consider your other statements. You recognize that objective morality must exist, but you deny it to keep God out of your life. At some point you'll have to pick. The cognitive dissonance can't last forever.

I have not denied objective morality exists.

Morality is important for society. If we had none, we'd be diddling children and killing people.

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jesus

sweet jesus jesus jesus

We live in a society

I love to praise ur name

That's called cognitive dissonance

does no one know that song

Again, there was nothing there that denied objective morality. the only difference we have in thought is where objective morality seems to appear from.

Carl Benjamin is a really popular political commentator that is an atheist, and he has also conceded the point that atheists like himself (and I) really ought to align ourselves with christians because we agree on almost every single point.

Well you could always strap 2 guys in chains in a cave and see what happens.

that might not end well

I take it that you don't get the reference

I must admit that I don't

Sup guys.

How are you guys today?

Smoke in the cave theory

I haven't had bacon in a while

Fish bacon is the best.

Shadows on the wall

The reason is because you may understand what you're saying, but you don't understand what I'm saying. You're missing the fact that the very language you're using, is defined by Christianity. The very term morals is a matter of law. The very essence of good vs bad is judgment, and the thing that separates them is a standard, that standard is law. Even when you say that it just benefits our society, you're still making an ontological claim that leads to God. Nothing in nature is good or bad, only you're judgment. No animal does this, hence 'homosapien', ie single species of wisdom. Why? Because moral reasoning is unique to humans, because we aren't made in the likeness of animals, but God.

Good afternoon, Sunday afternoon.

You guys should read the Smoking Shadow theory from ancient greek

Very true. Very very true.

You guys like snap chat.

Eric Swawell, More like Eric Swallow

A mathematician once made a theory that if you believe in God and he isn't real you lose nothing, but if he is real and you don't believe in God you lose something.

Trying to derive morals from nature is like to get gold from lead.

So this is where I'm at a point that I don't feel comfortable discussing this in a general chat, not because I am not up for it, but I don't want to be put in a bin with 'those atheists,' that just argue because they are ideological militants. I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of how I view the world though and I'd be happy to talk more in dms.

That was Loui Pascal, called Pascal's wager

depending on where it takes place that may also end badly

Well obviously the gay lefty will be thrown off the building, cause Islam

If you want to dive deeper like you did when you got red piled, just get the book the End of Reason

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Wouldn’t be bacon. Would be fish.

Bacon is made from ham

Or pig

Debating is not typically helpful. The only helpful thing it can do is show where you need to learn something.

what are yall talking abt now