Message from @DJ Sullivan J.D

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2020-12-13 19:46:43 UTC  

i thought yo uwere a DJ

2020-12-13 19:47:07 UTC  

Well. Actually DJ stands for David James ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2020-12-13 19:47:16 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-13 19:47:17 UTC  

you aren't a David James?

2020-12-13 19:47:36 UTC  

hello noob

2020-12-13 19:47:37 UTC  

Yeah our basis of where our conclusions are drawn from are fundamentally different, which makes it hard for two people to talk of such things sometimes. Like, I've had plenty of time/friends that are deeply religious, and we have had discussions (not debates) to understand each other better. And I think I generally understand where the religion worldview comes from, and find it interesting. Again, another reason why I think 'debating' creation is rather pointless.

2020-12-13 19:47:45 UTC  

~~Has existential crisis~~

2020-12-13 19:48:04 UTC  

to find out you aren't who you thought you were

2020-12-13 19:48:17 UTC  

I have no input on religion

2020-12-13 19:48:31 UTC  

Kind of like how I imagine a Kamakazi pilot having one as he preparing to do the thing. Flying towards a ship, he thinks. “Am I man or plane?”

2020-12-13 19:48:33 UTC  

my input is people should worship me

2020-12-13 19:48:51 UTC  

Ah. Hello Koresh.

2020-12-13 19:48:58 UTC  

Okay the thing is debating creation and evolution is extremely difficult because honestly both world views require faith, yes?

2020-12-13 19:49:00 UTC  

hello not david james

2020-12-13 19:49:08 UTC  

Or Jim Jones I guess

2020-12-13 19:49:21 UTC  

😠 ur the r word not me

2020-12-13 19:49:45 UTC  

It’s okay. People are different. You don’t have to be embarrassed.

2020-12-13 19:50:03 UTC  

😔

2020-12-13 19:50:16 UTC  

all my braincells are here 😠

2020-12-13 19:50:18 UTC  

Da frick

2020-12-13 19:50:28 UTC  

Maybe not if he has to listen to The democrats speak

2020-12-13 19:50:38 UTC  

It depends on what type of atheist you are talking about. For example, some atheists pre-suppose that a god can not exist, which yes, requires faith, but some atheists (like me) take the position that they are simply unconvinced that creation is a thing, which lacks faith in anything. That being said, that doesn't make my position any more correct than yours so it's again, a pointless rabbit hole imo

2020-12-13 19:50:50 UTC  

ur the one that thinks you wearing a crappy mask saves people

2020-12-13 19:50:52 UTC  

😠

2020-12-13 19:51:01 UTC  

So nihilism?

2020-12-13 19:51:16 UTC  

No that would be belief in nothing

2020-12-13 19:51:22 UTC  

You can say 'retarded'

2020-12-13 19:51:32 UTC  

i was told by mods you can't say it

2020-12-13 19:51:37 UTC  

I think nihilism is the rejection of all moral principles, which I do not believe.

2020-12-13 19:51:51 UTC  

do it then

2020-12-13 19:51:52 UTC  

I believe morals are real and objective

2020-12-13 19:51:57 UTC  

Ye

2020-12-13 19:52:00 UTC  

Moral relativists cause a lot of damage, I'd say

2020-12-13 19:52:05 UTC  

People know right from wrong

2020-12-13 19:52:10 UTC  

Okay but what I am stating you have faith in is that the world was formed from a nebular disk which came from something condensed into the size of a dot

2020-12-13 19:52:13 UTC  

i know right from left

2020-12-13 19:52:20 UTC  

I've used it in front of multiple mods, each never had an issue

2020-12-13 19:52:29 UTC  

idk maybe they just like to bully me

2020-12-13 19:52:38 UTC  

or maybe some mods are different

2020-12-13 19:53:07 UTC  

~~about an inch and a half or so long place over the oral area~~

2020-12-13 19:53:11 UTC  

I agree, that's why I didn't want to rope you into one. Debate never helps anyone that isn't already looking for an answer to a question.

Just so you know my background, I have Master's level education in philosophy, theology and other disciplines. I categorize your respective statements in the categories they'd formally belong to. But you're right, I don't know your inner thoughts.

You should read the book, it would be good to reflect on. https://www.amazon.com/End-Reason-Response-New-Atheists/dp/0310282519

Also, just fyi, Christian philosophy, theology, etc aren't Mormon. Mormonism is unorthodox, or in laymen terms, considered a completely different religion.