Message from @SmugJew

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2017-11-19 23:56:07 UTC  

now in retrospec, I bet there would have been some lulz in military.

2017-11-19 23:56:40 UTC  

my main reason for avoiding it at all costs was that I was afraid of losing my dual citizenship, but as time passed, I never used more than one passport at the same time in my life

2017-11-19 23:57:15 UTC  

consider just doing military service, you will have some months of a "different" life, probably find some friends, learn about weapons and war

2017-11-19 23:57:51 UTC  

people that have done it here said that its mostly fun and a good experience, but you spend a lot of time doing literally nothing

2017-11-19 23:58:24 UTC  

need a really good excuse to go home over the weekends too and shit like that

2017-11-19 23:59:02 UTC  

Also girls like men in uniform

2017-11-19 23:59:16 UTC  

lul

2017-11-19 23:59:32 UTC  

dunno

2017-11-19 23:59:37 UTC  

ill try to get a year extension

2017-11-19 23:59:44 UTC  

and leave country lul

2017-11-19 23:59:54 UTC  

tbh not a fan of guns n shit

2017-11-20 00:00:05 UTC  

where would you like to leave to?

2017-11-20 00:02:03 UTC  

dunno really

2017-11-20 00:02:11 UTC  

kinda been lately thinking about canada or australia

2017-11-20 00:02:25 UTC  

but i also kinda wanna study in some EU country

2017-11-20 00:02:37 UTC  

both are pretty hard to emigrate to if you are not a high skilled professional

2017-11-20 00:02:42 UTC  

yeah

2017-11-20 00:02:48 UTC  

i only got programming education atm

2017-11-20 00:03:03 UTC  

Canada has some kind of intransparent "point system"

2017-11-20 00:03:25 UTC  

and Australia is case-based decision

2017-11-20 00:03:38 UTC  

well australia wouldve been more for short time thing

2017-11-20 00:03:45 UTC  

with holiday VISA

2017-11-20 00:03:46 UTC  

visa

2017-11-20 00:03:58 UTC  

What would you actually like to do abroad?

2017-11-20 00:04:02 UTC  

Study? Work?

2017-11-20 00:04:09 UTC  

ideally both

2017-11-20 00:04:16 UTC  

Are you willing to learn a language?

2017-11-20 00:04:22 UTC  

not really tbh

2017-11-20 00:05:16 UTC  

That makes it pretty difficult, most EU countries will want you to learn the local language to C1 (B2 for math and compsci) to give you a student visa for a Bachelors study

2017-11-20 00:05:46 UTC  

And outside of the EU, many countries don't allow you to work on a student visa

2017-11-20 00:05:49 UTC  

i mean im european so i dont need visa since free travel n shit?

2017-11-20 00:06:07 UTC  

You still need C1/B2 to be admitted to the study

2017-11-20 00:06:13 UTC  

Especially Germany is a pain in the ass

2017-11-20 00:06:14 UTC  

thats true

2017-11-20 00:06:35 UTC  

well i was banking on english degrees anyway

2017-11-20 00:06:39 UTC  

Switzerland goes that far and asks you to take the ECUS test which includes two of the national languages

2017-11-20 00:07:38 UTC  

English degrees as in studying English, or in English?

2017-11-20 00:08:10 UTC  

@porco what language do you talk with the natives there?

2017-11-20 00:08:16 UTC  

in english

2017-11-20 00:09:42 UTC  

@Julian I am native speaker in both Italian and German, also I have C2 in French, so I usually speak all 3 languages on a daily basis depending on which language is the most comfortable to whoever I'm speaking. Especially in the business-world in Switzerland you will encounter it often, that you have people from let's say Geneva, Lugano and Zurich sitting in an office

2017-11-20 00:10:32 UTC  

@SmugJew You will have a hard time finding English Bacherlor studies outside of English speaking countries