And a lot of our culture believes that abortion is right. If morality is just a construct why does it even matter opposing what others think is right

Not all nations follow God

Not so. The Church has had several reformations unlike other morality based institutions.

No nation follows God actually

Never said it didn't matter
But it is subjective , important, but changing

So if it is subjective how do you argue what is right or wrong

There has to be some element of objectivity for it to be functionally stable

Moral relativism is one reason we are in the mess we are now

well, because we want to run the world a specific way that conform to how we see the world

But a lot of people don’t agree with how you think the world should be run

How the heck did it auto correct run to tiny lol

exactly, because we don't follow the same moral codes. morality is subjective

That's what the gulags are for, silly.

But similarly there must be some degree of subjectivity allowed in different cultures

My moral is skewed lmao

We need an objective standard, otherwise we have everybody justifying everything under the sun

Isn’t that what ethics are?

I just joined the chat so I’m lost

It’s ok I am too

Our objective standard should be human rights, personal freedom

So are you a fascist?

We have a moral system that seems to work pretty well
I fallow my own morals I've built throughout my life

That's in essence what war of nations has been about
Who's morals are more right then the enemies

I’m sorry I just joined as well

Ethics is the manifested behavior of morality I believe

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Society need to self regulate as well, to wars off ruinous behaviors and lifestyles

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how the hell did you interpreted that as me being a fascist 😂 i'm arguing that morality is subjective, can't expect the same standard everywhere

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Yeah the definition of fascism is the belief in no right or wrong and that morality is subjective. You just said you create your own rules for yourself.

Name calling someone a fascist is not a way to win an argument (tho personally this isn’t an argument, we are just having a discussion)

Uh... no it’s not

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Interesting

```Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition```

In fact, Fascism is about conformity

wot 😂 i said let's try not to judge people morals. as long as they're happy and not infringe on other's rights, i don't care

It’s like the exact opposite of subjective morality

system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator

We have similar methodologies it seems

Well as just said im lost because I just jumped in to this chat