Message from @ELIS314

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2021-01-02 16:25:35 UTC  

I see

2021-01-02 16:25:37 UTC  

Like I just dont understand what is that inconvenient in using ze/zim

2021-01-02 16:25:40 UTC  

1. A nation is a single collective of people who have bound together, formed a government, and enforce some form of borders around their territory.
2. It depends. Each nation is different, some bind on a single collective national identity, some on a religious identity, some on an industry. Almost all of them though do hold together based on a collective culture that is similar across the nation.

2021-01-02 16:25:48 UTC  

They’re not real words.

2021-01-02 16:26:05 UTC  

All words are made up... they dont come from trees

2021-01-02 16:26:05 UTC  

I don’t.

2021-01-02 16:26:13 UTC  

and how do I know if ze/zim is replacing what noun

2021-01-02 16:26:18 UTC  

1. People being united culturally, historically, geographically, and have a self governing and sovereign, indivisible, independent state.
2. People being aware of their culture, history.

2021-01-02 16:26:26 UTC  

I consider myself a conservative but I'm European so our definitions are likely different

2021-01-02 16:26:36 UTC  

like he/him, that's a boy, she/her a girl and so on

2021-01-02 16:26:41 UTC  

I see.

2021-01-02 16:26:44 UTC  

You can’t just write something, then smash it through the common lexicon, then call it a word.

2021-01-02 16:27:03 UTC  

It

2021-01-02 16:27:09 UTC  

Then explain me from were words come from 😂

2021-01-02 16:27:17 UTC  
2021-01-02 16:27:20 UTC  

I understand why you would want it to be gender neutral but no one would use ze/zim

2021-01-02 16:27:20 UTC  

If people use them they are words

2021-01-02 16:27:25 UTC  

It would be like me saying dechtocmoth in a sentence and expecting you to know what it is, then berating you when you don’t.

2021-01-02 16:27:35 UTC  

My main reason for disliking the identity politics is that at 13 I could have easily been pushed into believing i was trans

2021-01-02 16:27:46 UTC  

Because im a masculine female

2021-01-02 16:27:50 UTC  

It isnt gender neutral it is queergender and its referring to something that isnt either neutral or boy or girl

2021-01-02 16:28:05 UTC  

I know right?! They want to indoctrinate the youth early on with their BS identity politics and political correctness

2021-01-02 16:28:08 UTC  

Rather than just being a masculine female, which is absolutely fine

2021-01-02 16:28:12 UTC  

MAN OR WOMEN

2021-01-02 16:28:19 UTC  

Well I am willing to explain neupronoums , like I didnt say dont ask about it

2021-01-02 16:28:23 UTC  

many people thought they were trans, but turn out they are just tomboy or somewhat feminine

2021-01-02 16:28:23 UTC  

You're a cute femboy uwu

2021-01-02 16:28:25 UTC  

<:troll_face:726878856585281557>

2021-01-02 16:28:38 UTC  

Wait that's tomboy

2021-01-02 16:28:40 UTC  

Fuck

2021-01-02 16:28:41 UTC  

I see why people want neopronouns but they are more iconvient than ever

2021-01-02 16:28:48 UTC  

I'm stupid

2021-01-02 16:29:03 UTC  

Nah there's too many terms to keep up with

2021-01-02 16:29:12 UTC  

My pronoun is attack helicopter

2021-01-02 16:29:15 UTC  

Like it is a bad solution but I dont think I know any alternatives atm

2021-01-02 16:29:43 UTC  

It isn't as simple as just use they/them but neopronouns don't really help anyone

2021-01-02 16:30:02 UTC  

Neopronouns are attempts to change language...

2021-01-02 16:30:11 UTC  

Language must be changed organically, not by force.

2021-01-02 16:30:38 UTC  

also this problem is basically only a european problem, other regions are fine without neopronouns

2021-01-02 16:30:47 UTC  

Id actually rather them make up words than take others and reappropriate them

2021-01-02 16:30:51 UTC  

I am starting to like this debate