No problem, I appreciate the response and the honesty

We can’t even protest without it being used against us by the media. So now the electoral votes are still being counted but with little focus.

They do.

This. When you have a portion of the governed land that perceives a credible threat to their freedoms not being thoroughly investigated or vetted... you’re basically asking for them to rise up and protest.

Any time anyone slightly to the right does something it has been reported as though it is the worst ever to the point, I have family that won't speak to me because I am some evil far right wing nutjob. Thier words not mine. I have had friends no longer willing to talk to me for the same reason.

so how does this riot an looting thing work do we hit the target or bestbuy 1st? i have never done this before.

@SANCTIONED I gave you a link to Denver’s capitol being stormed over the summer, here are a few more: https://www.azfamily.com/news/conflict-erupts-between-protesters-at-state-capitol-in-downtown-phoenix/article_9a9c5674-be6c-11ea-9a7a-1bee64ccd4d4.html here is Oregon: https://www.q13fox.com/news/unlawful-assembly-declared-as-protesters-storm-oregon-state-capitol-building

If they protest and destroy businesses, assault people, or even execute an innocent Trump supporter in the street, the movement is “mostly peaceful”. When a few people out of thousands break into the Capitol and one of them is killed by police, all Trump supporters are terrorists and Trump must be removed.

Yeah, both sides are guilty of this. I have friends on the left and right that vilify the other and it makes it hard to have a level headed conversation.

Hahaha I remember when I was with the Democrats about 12 years ago on anti-privacy stuff from Facebook and other major tech corps... anti big business, and Republicans were the ones saying “companies can do what they want”... I’m still on the anti tech corps side, against censorship and such, but now those same Democrats are the ones defending big tech. It’s so weird

Vandalism issues at a State Capitol Building, not Capitol Hill lol regardless it's wrong. Again, the difference today was an electoral process was taking place & the sitting presidents supporters stormed the building and halted the process. that is an attack on the very fabric of our country. Wrong, the above incident none the less...last whole year has been a wreck.

Depends on the day and if it’s politically beneficial. Like I said before... no balls.

So again, you’re okay with violence depending on the reason and party line? Or is violence violence, and should be condemned no matter what?

hang on, these are the trump supporters who stormed the buildings during the lockdown? i see back the blue flag.

I’m just confused about what you’re trying to say, since you seem to be fine with some violent protests but not others.

Yep, that was the bait that you gobbled right up. Suddenly that protest is now bad, I assume?

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There’s a strong case to be made that not evaluating the many claims of fraud /honestly/ is also an attack on the fabric of our nation.

again...when have i said i'm OK with violence? how is saying the who are not comparable

gobbled what right up? i just said vandalized...so you just made apoint bu showing me Trump summer protests are ok? wtf

I am not generally politically engaged but more and more, I have been seeing my voice muted or kicked to the side to the point I don't feel comfortable sharing my views with most people, because I could be retaliated against or lose my job. Simply for supporting a different political view. I choose to try to continue making the United States of America better in whatever ways I can. I won't give up just because my preferred candidate lost. I have seen enough evidence that I believe to be credible enough to warrant being looked at.

@blueorbit are you feeling ok?

carry on the good work!

I’m saying that when you attack, vandalize, riot, damage, kill, or use any combination of violent methods to convey a point, you should be held accountable. Whether it was during the summer in anti-police demonstrations, or today over election certification.

@SANCTIONED Thank you

@blueorbit i dont know what you are saying and i don't think you do either now...you just proved a point that maga's are violent and storm capitol buildings...and cause millions in damage...well done!

Yeah, @SANCTIONED you may see a few emboldened trump supporters showing up at the capital as a threat to our nation but tbh, seeing how slimy all three branches of the gov are... dude that’s the least of my concerns.

nobody should be attacked, doxed etc that stuff is bs.

I... Um... I think I’ve been very clear... I don’t disagree with this at all.

@Darkangael said it right. Shutting people up will result in them showing up at your door demanding a response.

believe me, you have gone in circles and proved my point for me...thanks

all government will always be corrupt...trump is no different.

I think you’re carrying on too many conversations, I didn’t disagree with the main point you were making, lol

Yeah, but it’s getting to a point where I don’t think Americans will put up with it and that is a dangerous spot to find yourself.

Kelly Loeffler is a fake republican.

not sure what you were doing with the article but it proved my point for me...but yet, too many convo's lol

@SANCTIONED actually from what I have read you both seem to agree even if you have different wordings for your points. Most Trump supporters I have met are not violent as a rule but there are bad apples in every barrel. Edited for spelling

Maybe that's because there has never been the need for it. We didn't need it for 240 years. We also didn't need mail in voting for 240 years. So, if Covid necessitates special provisions for mail in voting, why doesn't it necessitate special provisions for extra special auditing? We threw together mail in voting. Let's throw together some auditing.

I was just pointing out that violence at state capitol buildings is nothing new for this country given 2020 events, and it’s not isolated to a particular party or group. I think people just hate capitol buildings.

Yes this is what I understood too

All Americans are tired of one thing or the other and corona hasn't helped.