Message from @lillian

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2021-01-05 23:01:48 UTC  

Exactly, and not the right to mutilate oneself, that should be prevented.

2021-01-05 23:01:49 UTC  

Read the one on the bottom

2021-01-05 23:01:52 UTC  

Not tje other one

2021-01-05 23:01:56 UTC  

Someone with some sense about them. Finally.

2021-01-05 23:02:09 UTC  

Show me some evidence of that. I've seen figures that point to the opposite being true iirc

2021-01-05 23:02:11 UTC  

Can't help but notice Octavia refuses to say how transgender folk are mentally disabled

2021-01-05 23:02:17 UTC  

And thats not from quran, thats a hadith

2021-01-05 23:02:24 UTC  

It intensifies the main problem, which is them thinking theyre the opposite sex.

2021-01-05 23:02:33 UTC  

Gender dysphoria is most assuredly a mental illness, you can't change that. You however make the argument that trans people don't have it

2021-01-05 23:02:35 UTC  

okay just a sec

2021-01-05 23:03:05 UTC  

Seems like an irrational position to me

2021-01-05 23:03:07 UTC  

but it makes their lives better and improves how they function (aka also improving society).

2021-01-05 23:03:14 UTC  

that’s helping them and society

2021-01-05 23:03:15 UTC  

It definitely isn't the solution for everyone though.

2021-01-05 23:03:18 UTC  

That's for sure

2021-01-05 23:03:23 UTC  

There is no such thing as misenterpration. People usually say read quran on arabic to get the real answers which is also stupid too.

2021-01-05 23:03:24 UTC  

u can’t read lol

2021-01-05 23:03:30 UTC  

If you think gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness then you are genuinely stupid

2021-01-05 23:03:32 UTC  

No, it intensifies the main problem, their dysphoria.

2021-01-05 23:03:33 UTC  

Even if the Hadith was against transgenderism, it still falls second to the quran’s teachings

2021-01-05 23:03:37 UTC  

i quite literally said trans people have gender dysphoria

2021-01-05 23:03:43 UTC  

And there have been tons of reports of people regretting their surgery

2021-01-05 23:03:47 UTC  

but gender dysphoria is, by definition, not a mental illness

2021-01-05 23:03:54 UTC  

It is

2021-01-05 23:04:00 UTC  

It is dysphoria

2021-01-05 23:04:08 UTC  

Apparently you can't. I said gender dysphoria is a mental illness, you said it wasn't

2021-01-05 23:04:11 UTC  

What did quran teach about transgenders or mukhanattuns? @Napoleon_1806

2021-01-05 23:04:11 UTC  

It’s under exactly the same category as depression. People can get it, and people can lose it.

2021-01-05 23:04:12 UTC  

This is factually incorrect. Dysphoria is reduced when people pass.

2021-01-05 23:04:14 UTC  

It is a mental disability.

2021-01-05 23:04:18 UTC  

1% regret transitioning. the vast majority of the 1% regret it very early on and before they had any surgeries

2021-01-05 23:04:27 UTC  

it literally by definition is not

2021-01-05 23:04:34 UTC  

That’s debatable. But it’s also debatable whether or not transgender people have gender dysphoria

2021-01-05 23:04:35 UTC  

And I said you can make the argument that they don't, but gender dysphoria is still a mental illness

2021-01-05 23:04:41 UTC  

Pffft, no, because they still think theyre a woman.

2021-01-05 23:04:47 UTC  

***HOW***

2021-01-05 23:05:05 UTC  

Turns out being a woman is unethical I guess

2021-01-05 23:05:05 UTC  

Okay? You're point with this statement?

2021-01-05 23:05:06 UTC  

it’s not debatable. it’s according to psychological and widely accepted definitions

2021-01-05 23:05:09 UTC  

A dysphoria is a type of mental disability.

2021-01-05 23:05:13 UTC  

Dysphoria is the discomfort. It is the opposite of euphoria