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2021-01-05 23:07:58 UTC  

And homosexuality is seen as a sodomy

2021-01-05 23:08:04 UTC  

@Dat_One_Boi_With_Big_Brain 187 @Napoleon_1806 “Dysphoria (from Greek: δύσφορος (dysphoros), δυσ-, difficult, and φέρειν, to bear) is a profound state of unease or dissatisfaction. It is the opposite of euphoria. In a psychiatric context, dysphoria may accompany depression, anxiety, or agitation.”

2021-01-05 23:08:11 UTC  

this is the general definition of dysphoria

2021-01-05 23:08:14 UTC  

Yeah submission or submission to god or smth

2021-01-05 23:08:22 UTC  

Where is identity mentioned in the definition of mental disability?

2021-01-05 23:08:26 UTC  

no one is claiming trans people don’t have some type of psychological or mental issue lol

2021-01-05 23:08:30 UTC  

that’s what makes them trans

2021-01-05 23:08:35 UTC  

And it is classified along with things like depression, which is a mental issue

2021-01-05 23:08:51 UTC  

Quran

Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" - An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the "rain of stones" on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people's destruction. (Inexplicably, the story is also repeated in three other suras: 15:74, 27:58 and 29:40).

Quran (7:81) - "Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?" This verse is part of the previous text establishing that homosexuality as different from (and much worse than) adultery or other sexual sin. According to the Arabic grammar, homosexuality is called the worst sin, while references elsewhere describe other forms of non-marital sex as being "among great sins."

2021-01-05 23:08:53 UTC  

Quran (26:165-166) - "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing"

Quran (4:16) - "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone" This is the Yusuf Ali translation. The original Arabic does not use the word "men" and simply says "two from among you." Yusuf Ali may have added the word "men" because the verse seems to refer to a different set than referred to in the prior verse (explicitly denoted as "your women"). In other words, since 4:15 refers to "your women", 4:16 is presumably written to and refers to men.

2021-01-05 23:08:57 UTC  

Their identity affects their life activities.

2021-01-05 23:08:58 UTC  

that’s the point it’s not. it may LEAD to mental illnesses. it’s not a mental illness by itself

2021-01-05 23:08:58 UTC  
2021-01-05 23:08:58 UTC  

@Napoleon_1806 islam is not peaceful. Neither is christianity. But at least most christians don't actually believe in what is written in the bible

2021-01-05 23:09:00 UTC  

So you say they have mental issues and you wish to enable them?

2021-01-05 23:09:07 UTC  

The same can't be said for a lot of muslims when it comes to the quran

2021-01-05 23:09:11 UTC  

Ok it seems like you don’t know the story very well. It is about gay rape.

2021-01-05 23:09:23 UTC  

Rape of any form should be banned

2021-01-05 23:09:28 UTC  

the only possible solution for these issues known to psychology is physically and socially transitioning. ur opinion changes nothing.

2021-01-05 23:09:28 UTC  

Read the fucking verses you retard

2021-01-05 23:09:33 UTC  

As does whether or not you feel hungry. What is your point?

2021-01-05 23:09:57 UTC  

So you don’t realize the word Islam literally means peace in Arabic. Why am I arguing with you monkeys

2021-01-05 23:09:59 UTC  

It negativley and severely does so.

2021-01-05 23:10:03 UTC  

That doesnt really.look like they care about gay rape, they care about gay sex more

2021-01-05 23:10:07 UTC  

As a sodomy

2021-01-05 23:10:31 UTC  

Even if the word means that doesn't it is that

2021-01-05 23:10:39 UTC  

Islam is not peaceful

2021-01-05 23:10:40 UTC  

so u agree? gender dysphoria causes issues in how they live and function and we should treat them?

2021-01-05 23:10:44 UTC  

And yet ALL studies show that is only the case if they do not pass or are stopped from doing what they want. If they pass, they are happy.

2021-01-05 23:10:48 UTC  

Try being more coherent

2021-01-05 23:10:53 UTC  

Most religions are aggressive.

2021-01-05 23:10:55 UTC  

Hadith and Sira

Abu Dawud (4462) - The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done."  (This is a sahih hadith)

Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death." (see also 4447).

Sahih Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman."

2021-01-05 23:10:57 UTC  

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."

Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did." This is also repeated in three other places.

There are several lesser hadith stating, "if a man comes upon a man, then they are both adulterers," "If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both adulteresses," "When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes," and "Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (Abu Dawud 4462 and al-Tirmidhi 1456)

2021-01-05 23:10:58 UTC  

treat them, as in treat them by the best solution found to humanity yet

2021-01-05 23:11:01 UTC  

Exactly, and not by intensifying it.

2021-01-05 23:11:04 UTC  

Here are the hafiths too

2021-01-05 23:11:04 UTC  

physically and socially transitioning

2021-01-05 23:11:26 UTC  

then how? and do u have any actual psychological research which backs up ur point that it’s a good solution?

2021-01-05 23:11:33 UTC  

So, do you believe that they are actually the gender they claim to be?

2021-01-05 23:11:37 UTC  

Right so since dysphoria is body discomfort we should treat the body discomfort, right?

2021-01-05 23:11:49 UTC  

Again the story of sodom is a rape story. Committing sodomy was used as rape by military officers to establish dominance