Message from @Moti

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2021-01-05 23:10:57 UTC  

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver."

Reliance of the Traveller, p17.2 - "May Allah curse him who does what Lot's people did." This is also repeated in three other places.

There are several lesser hadith stating, "if a man comes upon a man, then they are both adulterers," "If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both adulteresses," "When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes," and "Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (Abu Dawud 4462 and al-Tirmidhi 1456)

2021-01-05 23:10:58 UTC  

treat them, as in treat them by the best solution found to humanity yet

2021-01-05 23:11:01 UTC  

Exactly, and not by intensifying it.

2021-01-05 23:11:04 UTC  

Here are the hafiths too

2021-01-05 23:11:04 UTC  

physically and socially transitioning

2021-01-05 23:11:26 UTC  

then how? and do u have any actual psychological research which backs up ur point that it’s a good solution?

2021-01-05 23:11:33 UTC  

So, do you believe that they are actually the gender they claim to be?

2021-01-05 23:11:37 UTC  

Right so since dysphoria is body discomfort we should treat the body discomfort, right?

2021-01-05 23:11:49 UTC  

Again the story of sodom is a rape story. Committing sodomy was used as rape by military officers to establish dominance

2021-01-05 23:11:53 UTC  

yes but just a sec i wanna send a few sources abt the previous topic

2021-01-05 23:11:59 UTC  

Anything that doesnt involve genital mutilation, like therapy.

2021-01-05 23:12:08 UTC  

Wait

2021-01-05 23:12:10 UTC  

Hold up

2021-01-05 23:12:11 UTC  

u missed the second part of my question

2021-01-05 23:12:29 UTC  

Is Octavia not aware that MOST people don't do SRS?

2021-01-05 23:12:33 UTC  

Just HRT?

2021-01-05 23:12:36 UTC  

Holy shit bro youre more retarded than i thought

2021-01-05 23:12:40 UTC  

Doesn't sodomy mean a*** sex too? p_p and other stuff

2021-01-05 23:12:51 UTC  

In the bible at least

2021-01-05 23:12:55 UTC  

Do you think quran would accept homosexuality anyhow in a century where gays were hated

2021-01-05 23:13:17 UTC  

It is incredibly harmful, even if it helps them you're intensifying the main problem, the fluke.

2021-01-05 23:13:19 UTC  

That is what it means, but not how it was used. There’s a problem with equating sodomy to homosexuality in the first place, but we can discuss that later

2021-01-05 23:13:27 UTC  

They do not only mention sodom and lot to tell us how bad homosexuality is, how hard is it for you to understand this?

2021-01-05 23:13:44 UTC  

Also is @Moti against piercings and tattoos?

2021-01-05 23:14:06 UTC  

Yes, they're ugly as fuck.

2021-01-05 23:14:19 UTC  

All of your examples did lol

2021-01-05 23:14:26 UTC  

Ah so you emotionally don't like it so you want to ban people from doing it

2021-01-05 23:14:28 UTC  

Awesome

2021-01-05 23:14:42 UTC  

Read some of these again.

2021-01-05 23:14:54 UTC  

No, just heavily judge them and exclude them for such.

2021-01-05 23:15:07 UTC  

Then again, their story was not only about rape and they mentioned homosexuality and rape in a separate way.

2021-01-05 23:15:25 UTC  

Quran says nothing about a thing that allows gay relationships to happen

2021-01-05 23:15:36 UTC  

And so genital mutilation to make people more comfortable in their bodies should be banned because...?

2021-01-05 23:15:51 UTC  

The first three are about sodom. The last one is a conservative interpretation

2021-01-05 23:16:03 UTC  

It literally says so in the text

2021-01-05 23:16:05 UTC  

If you don't think we would ban other forms of skin mutilation

2021-01-05 23:16:09 UTC  

Because you are intensifying the problem.

2021-01-05 23:16:33 UTC  

Dysphoria is body discomfort. How does it intensify body discomfort?

2021-01-05 23:16:47 UTC  

Conservative interpretation what?

2021-01-05 23:17:05 UTC  

Imagine getting your morals and opinions from a book written in the iron age by bigoted men and a warlord and pedophile named muhammed who married a 6-10 year old little girl.

2021-01-05 23:17:09 UTC  

The problem is that they think they're something they're not.