Bitch, jokes and genital mutilation are in no way similar.

no ur just an idiot

yes?

Impressive

@Signia yea and this is why utilitarianism is only brought up in the most psychotic of situations that are morally complex

1. not all trans people even get srs? what’s ur point?

2. again

how is it a problem?

Very defensive and very emotional

ur literally going in circles saying

What do you mean by this?

Uses ad hominems all the time

“oh being trans is a problem”

“how?”

It is litterally genital mutilation.

Trying to reduce the other persons position by all means necessary

“making them think they’re women is bad”

“why”

“because being trans is bad”

Not we got sexism added to the pot

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how? when?

"porn is teh real problem doesnt matter what kind, it chemically encourages (sheer willpower for self control is limited by chemical limits) lack of general self control by habit, obsession over it will happen if its not avoided which will lead to desire to rape, and acidental pregnancy as well as HIV leads to not only considerable insurance affecting physcail and mental helath problems on individual scale, but also high costs at society scale due to teh healthcare costs and poverty and crime that they cause, b/c healthcare and extreme immunity deficiency, heavy depression, poverty from cost of pregnancy care, child birth, child care, and the long time of disbaledness of a pregnant woman all cost a lot, combined with pre existing low income and irresponsible father leaving pregnant women.
lgtq+ is worse than natural straightness though
also pedos are worse than even that, b/c they cause sexual trauma and heavy addiction in victim kids, who dont have teh chemical or mental maturity to deal with trauama or porn addiction which worsen compared to normal kids when they reach puberty
b/c its takes away the urge to thinking about porn when even males are around other males for example
also pedos are worse than even that, b/c they cause sexual trauma and heavy addiction in victim kids, who dont have teh chemical or mental maturity to deal with trauama or porn addiction which worsen compared to normal kids when they reach puberty"

at least i’m actually proposing valid argument and bringing proof lol

You don’t see how calling a woman emotional and defensive isn’t sexist?

Abortion is an example/ if a happy drug were to exist would you forcefully give everyone this drug

Didn't even know she was a woman at first.

“not all trans people get srs”

It's a person being defensive and emotional that happens to be a woman

We've been through this and Octavia just wants people to follow what she perceives as their true selves, and doesn't really care about the happiness of the trans individuals.

Nibba, a *lot* do.

I don’t see how that fits with your point at all. Pro choice people believe in the opportunity to choose. It’s literally the opposite of forcing something one everyone

Well, are they being emotional and defensive

Every time you open you’re mouth you prove to me that your beyond worth talking to

okay? most don’t lol and being trans doesn’t automatically mean srs. therefore ur argument is invalid. also, srs has been proven to improve their lives so how is it bad?

if someone’s leg is broken or if someone is blind, should we ban surgeries to treat these issues?

purpose of gov is to make different people co exist, not to enforce stuff that doesnt benefit the community as a whole ex. a common military, uncontrolable poverty and teh consequances of such etc

Sure, jim, but most *eventually* do.

Abortion is not in agreement in utilitarians. The future utility of the yet to be born child is something worth considering. Also, utility is more than just happiness. If people do not WANT to take the happy drug then it violates their utility, by definition.

Source? Plenty of trans women like having a dick actually

Then theyre not women lmaaoooooooooo