Message from @Signia

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2021-01-06 00:50:41 UTC  

Why can't we be allowed to go do heaven even if we don't believe in God?

2021-01-06 00:50:47 UTC  

What executive Power does It have upon your will

2021-01-06 00:50:55 UTC  

Because God has no fellowship with evil.

2021-01-06 00:51:00 UTC  

And rejecting God is evil.

2021-01-06 00:51:20 UTC  

A business makes collective decisions for those it employs. Therefore, it governs. Therefore, it is government.

2021-01-06 00:51:49 UTC  

a business pays all the people who work for them, the government does not

2021-01-06 00:51:51 UTC  

It, orders those that voluntarily chose to work for it.

2021-01-06 00:51:56 UTC  

That is legitimately the only requirement to go to Heaven, well actually it's to trust in Jesus and accept him as your Savior

2021-01-06 00:52:02 UTC  

And welfare is?

2021-01-06 00:52:10 UTC  

not everyones on welfare

2021-01-06 00:52:15 UTC  

Exactly, a voluntary government

2021-01-06 00:52:20 UTC  

Welfare is payment, for what production?

2021-01-06 00:52:23 UTC  

For what work?

2021-01-06 00:52:29 UTC  

It still gives services

2021-01-06 00:52:37 UTC  

Shitty services, lol.

2021-01-06 00:52:41 UTC  

a business doesnt just pay some of its employees, it pays all of them, the government pays some people not all people

2021-01-06 00:52:42 UTC  

In exchange for taxation

2021-01-06 00:52:46 UTC  

And also imprisons people in poverty traps.

2021-01-06 00:52:48 UTC  

Irrelevant

2021-01-06 00:53:01 UTC  

"Irrelevant".
Except you can't choose another service.

2021-01-06 00:53:11 UTC  

You can... move...

2021-01-06 00:53:22 UTC  

Ah yes. The 'just move lol' argument.

2021-01-06 00:54:07 UTC  

move from my favorite country venezuela who benefited so much from socialism, nah im good

2021-01-06 00:54:16 UTC  

im tryna eat rocks and dogs

2021-01-06 00:54:17 UTC  

Also, How the fuck is taxation work? Isn't this basicly. The government taking, and giving back, and taking from you, in a cycle?

2021-01-06 00:54:27 UTC  

Additionally, many governments allow you to opt-out of social programs. Making this programs optional. Public healthcare in general being an example.

2021-01-06 00:55:21 UTC  

Yeah, as a form of resource distribution because we've either democratically decided it, or an authoritarian imposed it. Sometimes both.

2021-01-06 00:55:37 UTC  

I wish to abolish taxation eventually too y'know

2021-01-06 00:55:41 UTC  

"Resource redistribution".

2021-01-06 00:55:55 UTC  

does not spur an economy

2021-01-06 00:56:06 UTC  

Literally can but okay

2021-01-06 00:56:16 UTC  

Yeah because. Simply regorgitating wealth around and creating no more wealth sure helps everyone.

2021-01-06 00:56:22 UTC  

what grows an economy is a market system that creates new products and services that serves the consumers

2021-01-06 00:56:52 UTC  

I mean

2021-01-06 00:56:53 UTC  

socialism worked so well in venezuela didnt it

2021-01-06 00:57:05 UTC  

where the money is worthless and people eat dogs

2021-01-06 00:57:07 UTC  

VENEZUELA WAS CAPITALIST HAHAHHAHAHA

2021-01-06 00:57:11 UTC  

What gets in the way of people. Is always government.
Market is established through voluntary relations between individuals, and should be kept as such.

2021-01-06 00:57:14 UTC  

no they were not

2021-01-06 00:57:16 UTC  

Love the venezuela memes

2021-01-06 00:57:18 UTC  

not at all