@sans it was programmed into me by my parents and now my belief in God is involuntary, and I enjoy having an imaginary friend who create(s/d) the universe.

Programmed until 7 years old: Programmed (Unconsciously) for life.

@sans the justification is u. if ur here to say all this then god must exist. or else u wouldnt be doing it ey?

@sans I believe the order that exists within this world is a sign of His existence.

Which may sound vague but my point is that everything is created with purpose and order..

and to sway away therefrom is to cause disorder > chaos > death..

A very obvious example is when the wife is the head of the family.

@Robert so what you’re saying is, the laws of reality, must have a law giver? Correct me if I’m wrong

Oh ok I see, you’re talking about the morality of the Bible, and how Religion can give us a sense of purpose. Without it, you’re only going to be depressed and you’re going to have no goal

That has nothing to do with if God actually exists though

What you firstly wrote is closest to what I meant :^)

Oh ok so if there must be a law giver, where were the laws that gave the law giver the ability to give any laws?

If what you’re saying is that he goes beyond the laws of reality, then that is a fictional concept. You can not go beyond those laws. That’s why those laws are there

Reality: The state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

*Just googled for the conv's sake*

If we didn’t have those laws, then flying fairies and wizards would be the norm. Because they go beyond those laws. So I want to ask, why have we never seen anything go beyond the laws of reality? Do you think idk... maybe because it’s impossible and when you really come to think about it, it makes no sense at all. Do you think it’s more logical to believe the Big Bang happened? Because at least that follows the laws of reality unlike God

That's a lot of big statements and questions that takes time to digest.

Take your time

the big bang = god spontaneously ejaculating

xD

Firstly, I'd say that I can not argue on a few of the matters since they are
not addressing the God that I believe in. I could tell you that my Lord has none
that give him the ability of anything. Because that's what I've been taught.
To argue anything beyond it is to argue on matters you and me both can't defend for
we argue matters we have not experienced nor seen.

did u know that there are colors the eyes cant see, sounds frequencies the ears cant pickup, smells the nose cant smell?

Now.. we could say that what we are trying to do here is to use our Logic and Reasoning abilities to assess the validity of the existence of God. And if there be any clear Logical errors then that can be indicative of a non-existent deity.

most ppl have different perceptions of god. the most common perception is that jesus is god and the son of god and with god its a trinity or something.

after i grew up i came to know god different than wat most others and i were taught.

But to give you an answer to "Where were the laws that gave the law giver the ability to give laws" .. You know I can not answer that.. xD Not because of its naturally illogical nature or anything.. but it would be guessing the unseen.

Also, like I said prior: Your question is not describing the God I believe in. Thus makes it irrelevant to me to answer.

Another thing.. to make this make some kind of sense.. I do not know all things.. I.. do not know all things. But I have been given signs that allowed me to believe in God which have been through those mechanism of Logic and Reasoning. Then there are things beyond our Logic and Reasoning ability that we cannot grasp. Like exactly your question of the Law-Giver.

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JamBot you said: "If we didn't have those laws then flying fairies and wizards would be the norm." Actually, we don't know that. That's guessing the unseen!

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JamBot you said: "Why have we never seen anything beyond the laws of reality?" That's such a good question imo. I will definitely say that there has been and still is things that proceeds our grasp of reality as we know it! And you questioning this in such a matter is probably the reason why the Prophets made the miracles happen as it is written. As a sign for the people!

That's a great question, honestly.

Our current sign/miracle to the people as of today is the Qur'an. But that's my bias! See for yourself 👀 .

because we are limited in perception, our senses cant pick it all up.

Its writing is beyond men's ability.

did u know that shrimp can see UV light?

if i remember correctly its shrimp

Oh, I didn't know that.

if the singularity that created the big bang was conscious of itself, what would that be like?

hey wheres the bathroom sorry