ie: the male virgin is the lowest rank in the kingdom of the world, but the highest in the kingdom of God

the more of a whore you are the higher you are in the kigndom of the world, but in the kingdom of God you are not wanted

> ie: the male virgin is the lowest rank in the kingdom of the world, but the highest in the kingdom of God
@Japheth
Very interesting way to put it.

revelation 14

if you think about it they're closer to God's own nature, ergo the world will ahte them more, but God loves them more because they're more like him

You may be beginning to understand human rank then

> So your making a case that human rank isnt human rank at this point @Deleted User
@pipupapu

There are multiple dimensions that make up a human. The spiritual dimension, physical and mental.

If you understand what he said

to the converse, a whore, especialyl a female whore, is like the image of the spirit of Babylon. Even the female whore ranks higher in Satan's kingdom than the beta manwhores

the manwhores would be liek the cannon fodder, while the female whores would be like minor military officers

Someone can be high in human rank on the physical dimension. But if their spiritual dimension is awful.. well it evens out you know.

becomes zilch

Not by human ranking

by human do you mean like the physical human?

Your physical self is not all there is to being human, so when I read "human rank" to me I think of all dimensions of someone.

but then this gets interesting because if you're realyl low ranked in Satan's pathetic ass kingdom and you throw down your weapons and surrender to Lord Jesus, this is actually kinda to your benefit that you haven't gone too evil, because then you don't have that far to rebuild

Im not interested in talking about the abstract

as where if you got really far into the Satanic kingdom, for one you're way less likely to surrender to Jesus, but if you do, like wow you are going to start at square one and you have so much to rebuild

Yes and that plays into the spiritual self.

Its all you

One should always strive to improve the spiritual self, the mental self, and the physical self.

At least once a day.

When you make a mistake you dont say ohh thats my spiritual selfs fault not mine

Yes it is all you.

Thats like some schizophrenic mentallity to say otherwise

really makes me think of what we talking about yesterday in terms of the young rich man and Jesus and Jesus telling him to pretty much forsake all his worldly treasure (and thus his fairly high worldly rank) and to follow him, but the young man was sorrowful at these words for he was very rich

interestingly that chapter goes on and the apostles amazed at this teaching, ask about how they forsook everything to follow him

it makes sense, the young rich man had gone pretty far up the worldly ranks, he was very tied to it, so for him to come down from that heights makes sense how he could be sorrowful

but you look at like good Peter and John, well they were nothing more than fishermen before they met Jesus, so when Jesus caleld them they just forsook the world and went straight away

lol even left their dad behind in the boat!

heck even now that i think about it, there's an interesting episode in book of Acts where Peter and John are being ruthlessly interrogated by the Pharisees, and even beaten, and the Pharisees take note that John and Peter are very low ranked in the worldly kingdom, which to a degree baffles them that they have so much knowledge of God and the scriptures

Awesome recollection of biblical stories @Japheth I enjoyed reading it

The rich man was not spiritually sound, and he was given the opportunity to improve it.

read the stories, they're better than i can put them, i'm jsut paraphrasing off the top of my head, so it's always best to check it against the book

i find the chapters for you

Mark 1 = Calling of the disciples, notably John and Peter. Luke 18 = Young Rich Man, the Camel and the Eye of the Needle. Acts 4 = John and Peter appear before the Sanhedrin (Acts 3 chapter before this details that they healed a man, for which they are sent to trial by the priests in Acts 4)

do you guys have the bible bot

Mark 1

oh i guess not

did anyone find an answer to the rank thing?

wow really great stuff in Mark 1