Message from @Japheth
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Operation paperclip
operation paperclip?
yeah
thanks
that's a heretical commentary
sigh
no way u read it that fast
you don't actualyl need a commentary to understand the Bible, in fact all commentaries are heretical and will make you not understand the Bible
Proverbs 18:13
“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.”
you can just read Revelation 14:1-5 for yourself, it's very quick very plainly written
i have
and as most if not all things in scripture its NOT in one place either
then you would know what it says
this is the same way cults and false doctrines come about
taking a sliver of the word and building and entire doctrine on it
yea they come about from the heresies, the pharisees and sadduccees' trap
no i mean the 30k plus divisions of Christianity
after all what is the Oral Torah? Is it not a heretical commentary abotu the Torah?
Revelation 14:4 states unequivocally that these 144,000 are "firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." Can God count? If these 144,000 are God's firstfruits, then no one else is included. The firstfruits are exactly 144,000, not one person less or one more! These numbers are consistent with the "thousands" and "tens of thousands" added together from the Old and New Testaments. As Christ says, "Many are called, but few chosen" (Matthew 20:16).
The bride of Christ is also exactly 144,000. Revelation 21:2 describes the bride as "the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." At this point, she has risen to meet Jesus Christ, married Him and is coming back to rule on the earth with Him (Revelation 5:10). She will always be with Him from this time on (I Thessalonians 4:17). This occurs at the last trumpet (I Corinthians 15:50-52), the time of the resurrection of the "dead in Christ" along with those who are "alive and remain." (I Thessalonians 4:16-17)
Twelve tribes times 12,000 each is 144,000, just as John describes the sealed servants of God in Revelation 7! Twelve and the square of twelve is New Jerusalem's description! The bride is exactly 144,000, and the firstfruits are exactly 144,000 (Revelation 14:4).
You have heard of operation paperclip but have you ever heard about operation ink pen?
These are the "redeemed from the earth" (Revelation 14:3-4). The Bible uses the name "redeemed" to describe those whom Christ's blood delivers from sin, purchasing them from death (Hebrews 9:12-16). Since these are the only ones who can sing the new song, they are the only ones redeemed from the earth at that time. Any others who are saved must be saved later. They "follow Christ" everywhere, being the bride with her Husband, ruling on earth.
Are the 144,000 all males, as some have postulated? Paul refers to the heroes of faith in Hebrews 11 as being part of the firstfruits (Hebrews 12:22-23; 11:40). Paul lists Sarah and Rahab as firstfruits awaiting resurrection when Christ returns! "Not defiled with women" cannot mean they are all men. The Bible often refers to churches as "women." Thus, the figure of speech means the 144,000 are not spiritually defiled with false doctrine.
never heard of operation ink pen, at least not by that name
see Shalom how the heretical commentaries make the Bible to say what it does not say. Same way we got the Talmud
sarah and rahab is first fruits also
suddenly not defiled by women doesn't mean not defiled by women
the 144k is first fruits
lol the madness of heresy
just as the kindgoms of israel and judah where called SISTERS
and WHORES
they were whores
they whored themselves with Babylon
as many WHORE with FALSE churches NOW
its the SAME thing
well of course they are whores literally and spiritually, the two go hand in hand
stop trying to turn the word into some incel super sayian doctrine
the word says what it does, i didn't write it. your commentary would turn the word into nothing and says the word has no effect and doesn't mean what it says, as if God were the author of confusion
your turning the word into something to glorify YOUSELF