lol well defiled by women isn't a metaphor

that's mroe to the fact they are virgins

and yea the song, the great song

The 144,000 are called "virgins" (Revelation 14:4). Some have seriously thought these are people who never had sexual intercourse! II Corinthians 11:2, however, supplies a more satisfying answer. The Corinthians had come out of as sexually active and perverted a culture as any in history, but Paul says that his goal was to present them "as a chaste virgin to Christ." Ephesians 5:24-26 shows the people of the church, defiled by sin, becoming unspotted, unwrinkled, holy and without blemish. Similarly, using Israel as a type, Ezekiel 16:9 shows Christ cleaning up His bride. Cleansed sinners comprise the 144,000, and they are designated "virgin." There is hope for all of us!

no that commentariat heretic is stretching too far

ur making it something is is not

it*

the 144,000 are virgins, never defiled by women, chaste

to put ur self on a pedestal for a insecurity u have

no, i am telling you what it says

then how can paul present the corinthians as a CHASE virgin to christ

you're trying to make a loophole, but the verse is very water tight

CHASTE*

2 Corinthians 11:2
“For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.”

@Japheth whats the name of the nazi nasa project again?

lol what?

the nazi scientists

and nasa

Operation paperclip

operation paperclip?

yeah

thanks

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/PW/k/269/Who-Are-144000.htm

that's a heretical commentary

sigh

no way u read it that fast

you don't actualyl need a commentary to understand the Bible, in fact all commentaries are heretical and will make you not understand the Bible

Proverbs 18:13
“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.”

you can just read Revelation 14:1-5 for yourself, it's very quick very plainly written

i have

and as most if not all things in scripture its NOT in one place either

then you would know what it says

this is the same way cults and false doctrines come about

taking a sliver of the word and building and entire doctrine on it

yea they come about from the heresies, the pharisees and sadduccees' trap

no i mean the 30k plus divisions of Christianity

after all what is the Oral Torah? Is it not a heretical commentary abotu the Torah?

Revelation 14:4 states unequivocally that these 144,000 are "firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." Can God count? If these 144,000 are God's firstfruits, then no one else is included. The firstfruits are exactly 144,000, not one person less or one more! These numbers are consistent with the "thousands" and "tens of thousands" added together from the Old and New Testaments. As Christ says, "Many are called, but few chosen" (Matthew 20:16).

with the heretical commentaries a little leaven leavens the whole bunch, their doctrines

The bride of Christ is also exactly 144,000. Revelation 21:2 describes the bride as "the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." At this point, she has risen to meet Jesus Christ, married Him and is coming back to rule on the earth with Him (Revelation 5:10). She will always be with Him from this time on (I Thessalonians 4:17). This occurs at the last trumpet (I Corinthians 15:50-52), the time of the resurrection of the "dead in Christ" along with those who are "alive and remain." (I Thessalonians 4:16-17)

Twelve tribes times 12,000 each is 144,000, just as John describes the sealed servants of God in Revelation 7! Twelve and the square of twelve is New Jerusalem's description! The bride is exactly 144,000, and the firstfruits are exactly 144,000 (Revelation 14:4).