Message from @Massie1223

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2020-12-11 07:08:54 UTC  

When we give scotus power to twist constitution, it’s not always best for liberties

2020-12-11 07:09:51 UTC  

I doubt they will decide directly they will send it to legislators or if that fails it will go to Congress and Senate as set out in the Constitution.

2020-12-11 07:10:10 UTC  

When you present argument to scotus, it opens windows to remove freedoms

2020-12-11 07:10:28 UTC  

There is "no where possible." It needs to be full stop preserve unless it is properly amended by the US Congress or by Article 5 Convention of the States

2020-12-11 07:11:17 UTC  

They all quote scotus

2020-12-11 07:11:30 UTC  

When they change constitution

2020-12-11 07:11:53 UTC  

That’s why we need to win the senate run off in Georgia. Because if the election goes to congress and the Dems win both seats pence would have to cast a vote for himself and it would make him look bad.

2020-12-11 07:16:54 UTC  

That's 2 of 4 for certiorari... And I wish that at least one if not 2 of the liberal justices would also take the case as well... I am afraid that if only the conservative justices agree to hear it the left is going to cause issues over this.

2020-12-11 07:17:23 UTC  

Well more issues.

2020-12-11 07:18:23 UTC  

Detail interpretation of constitution is the same as a change of the constitution

2020-12-11 07:18:33 UTC  

A ruling, becomes a rule

2020-12-11 07:22:31 UTC  

Article 3 Section 2 says that the Supreme Court **SHALL** take the case

2020-12-11 07:26:08 UTC  

It says that the Supreme Court Shall have original jurisdiction... I don't know if it's a shall take the case.

2020-12-11 07:45:28 UTC  

It's too late at night for me to want to go look it up at the moment... I am about to head to bed... I have work in the morning.

2020-12-11 08:36:10 UTC  

@kennyb, you just advanced to level 1!

2020-12-11 08:38:31 UTC  

fraud only happens if Trump wins, russia russia never china

2020-12-11 08:46:01 UTC  

@Ghostdog that is a line from the Dems. Russia as with other Countries have always tried to influence our elections. But this year those states where problems and questionable numbers are out of, invited the possibility.

2020-12-11 14:25:46 UTC  

Yes while a case involving the Dem states taking GOP states to court for cheating would be funny because all the sudden the GOP filings would be full of things about states rights. Let's not forget the shoe was on the other other foot. When the southern states led by Tennessee said look even though our conservative states obviously have the longest history of cheating in elections that continues to this day we feel it's our states right to run our own state and pass laws which clearly violate the Constitution and not have federal courts breathing down our neck and making sure we arent stopped in time for an election.

Cheating provisions which heavily impact federal elections like this one because the justices on the bench said go to town and they did on a massive scale in the name of voter integrity.

2020-12-11 14:39:19 UTC  

Oh my God

2020-12-11 14:40:29 UTC  

States can and do operate their state constitution but states can't subvert the constitution. Give it a rest

2020-12-11 14:41:51 UTC  

@Dedkraken , could you give some specific sources for those who would like to see what you are talking about?

2020-12-11 14:47:07 UTC  

Shelby county vs holder the gutting on the 1965 voting rights act. Part of the law said look we know certain states have a history of dunking on people of color to rig their elections and they are going to keep making laws like that even though those laws break the US Constitution. The preclearance measure made them run election changes by federal court before enacting them. The scotus basically said yes this was a warranted states rights check and yes they still make bad laws but we feel the frequency is not enough to have this in place any longer. Following which they all rushed to immediately put laws into place which they could not not even waiting a short time.

2020-12-11 15:07:28 UTC  

The south was blue then....

2020-12-11 15:07:46 UTC  
2020-12-11 15:09:08 UTC  

@Just A Dad Gamer @Dedkraken Yeah in the Jim Crow Era.

2020-12-11 15:10:56 UTC  

My point is the shoe was on the same foot if you read dedkrakens last post

2020-12-11 15:12:37 UTC  

🤷 I mean you can crayon whatever color you want on a state but southern conservative = southern conservative when it comes to voting laws.

2020-12-11 15:13:14 UTC  

@Dedkraken factually wrong. The south was all dems. The confederates were dems....

2020-12-11 15:15:01 UTC  

The dems till this day only want to control the minorities of this country

2020-12-11 15:15:01 UTC  

@Just A Dad Gamer, you just advanced to level 1!

2020-12-11 15:15:52 UTC  

Conservatives are now way more accepting of differing opinions and ideas than they have been. the democrats are very much back to their its our way or we burn down your cities, beat people in the street and riot.

2020-12-11 15:16:35 UTC  

Yes yes yes^

2020-12-11 15:16:40 UTC  

Southern dems turned southern GOP. Same party. Same voting laws. The issue was never party based or was regional in nature. I'm sure you've had your healthy dose of prageru history rewriting though

2020-12-11 15:16:51 UTC  

No. Your history is way wrong.

2020-12-11 15:17:43 UTC  

The migration of dems to the north was because of industry in the north and money. Not because the dems at any point had a change of heart

2020-12-11 15:18:06 UTC  

The great society act is an example of slavery

2020-12-11 15:18:39 UTC  

Created by a democrat disguised as finacial help/socialism.

2020-12-11 15:19:12 UTC  

I agree southern heritage is one based in racism and undermining the rights of people of color. You seem to be confused to the the current party that adheres to southern heritage. It's not a mystery that the GOP is still passing Jim Crow laws. It's because it never left.

2020-12-11 15:19:59 UTC  

Wrong again. You should do some reading and less listening. I love you reguardless. We can just agree to disagree

2020-12-11 15:21:19 UTC  

It's not a mistake they designed photo ID laws such that minorities with photo ID could not vote but white folks with photo ID could. It's not a mistake they gerrymander states such that if millions of POC vote Democrat they send GOP reps in their place so they have no voice.