Message from @TheParamedicGamer

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2020-11-06 01:06:20 UTC  

Has anyone come across individuals who find the actions taken by Kyle Rittenhouse are unjustified and, for all intents and purposes, murder?

2020-11-06 01:06:49 UTC  

Yes

2020-11-06 01:06:49 UTC  

Yes

2020-11-06 01:06:56 UTC  

What were their arguments?

2020-11-06 01:07:13 UTC  

I just got into one and the way the guy limited the facts was...perplexing to say the least

2020-11-06 01:07:21 UTC  

"Why did he show up with gum if not expected to use it?"

2020-11-06 01:07:28 UTC  

The guy used that one

2020-11-06 01:07:32 UTC  

Also used the curfew one

2020-11-06 01:07:35 UTC  

And "he shouldn't have been there to begin with"

2020-11-06 01:07:49 UTC  

The "looking for trouble" was used too

2020-11-06 01:08:01 UTC  

Yeah that one i hear alot

2020-11-06 01:08:20 UTC  

Some people don't think murder is justified, even to stop murder. I'm not going to defend their logic

2020-11-06 01:08:34 UTC  

Even after all that, I presented evidence to back up my points (including some of the law videos) and they still focused on irrelevant and highly limiting points

2020-11-06 01:09:19 UTC  

Your arguments and logic likely don't matter

2020-11-06 01:09:23 UTC  

Even had a current LEO come in who basically made comments that supported what i was saying (though not as direct, he is a LEO after all), and they treated what he said as gospel truth.

2020-11-06 01:09:59 UTC  

I know there are people who think or argue using such fallible points, but I wouldn't have imagined so many.

2020-11-06 01:10:35 UTC  

How do you think his case will go though? I believe he won't be charged.

2020-11-06 01:11:59 UTC  

I dont think we will be charged as well. Im guessing you have been following Robs videos on the subject?

2020-11-06 01:12:39 UTC  

As much as I can when I can. I miss his tuesday videos because of legal classes

2020-11-06 01:21:50 UTC  

Fair. But Rob makes really good arguments on how it can be considered self defense

2020-11-06 01:22:40 UTC  

And I mean looking at the videos kyle showed lots on self control when it came to the people who attacked him.

2020-11-06 01:23:27 UTC  

But personally the self defense claim completely relies on if the death of Rosenbaum is also considered self-defense.

2020-11-06 01:24:02 UTC  

If it is not deemed self-defense then kyle could be on the hook for the other folks he shot as well.

2020-11-06 01:25:40 UTC  

That is true. But homicide requires intent doesn't it?

2020-11-06 01:26:00 UTC  

At least according to statutes

2020-11-06 01:28:44 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 .


"The law says that if you are violating any crime, self defense doesn't apply. Kyle was out after Curfew, and he was illegally carrying a weapon, so ..."

"Everyone who was trying to stop him was trying to stop an armed man with a gun, who murdered someone (Rosenbaum); does a school shooter get to claim self defense when kids throw themselves at him trying to stop him?"

2020-11-06 01:31:15 UTC  

you can find clips of Vaush and Destiny on youtube, where Vaush makes such arguments and Destiny is shaking his head slowly

2020-11-06 01:31:21 UTC  

(if you are a masochist)

2020-11-06 01:31:26 UTC  

Care to share a link please?

2020-11-06 01:32:01 UTC  

when I saw it, it was a clipped version, I can only find full episode versions right now

2020-11-06 01:32:06 UTC  

That works