Message from @Ghostdog
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its totally legal for a 16yr old to carry or possess a rifle, the curfew thing maybe is an issue
And this defense has been shot down in more than one case.
It's not when it's not for the proper reasons.
It's only in certain exceptions that the minors carrying rifles is not a violation of the law.
yeah thats the issue, coupled with a curfew violation is akin to intent or lawful possession
And the statute cited by the defense is referencing (specifically) SBRs and hunting compliance.
he will be acquitted for sure of murder..
He was not in compliance with hunting guidelines (as he was not hunting!) and therefore this exception is rendered moot.
Therefore the minor cannot posses a firearm legally at that time.
Oh he will.
its 29.304, they dont even address possession of a rifle or shotgun for people over 16
its well known here, its the issue of if he was breaking another law when doing it
304 is explicitly about hunting.
Stop applying hunting rules and regulations.
no its not
hunting AND use of firearms, we have hunting regulations specific to hunting
Dude.
29.304 Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age.
It's literally in the name.
Read the statute.
It's about hunting and training/target practice.
Restrictions on possession or control of a firearm. No person 14 years of age or older but under 16 years of age may have in his or her possession or control any firearm unless he or she
it is in the context of this.
possession, or control... its not even debatable ive lived here 40yrs and well known
the issue is if he was violating other laws when doing it
I guess it's completely irrelevant law, according to your position.
if ur age 14 and passed hunters safety, the same training requirement we have for CCW, then u can open carry a rifle or shotgun also
as long as its not a SBR
or SBS
after 16 you need nothing
Yep, pretty sure you're simply wrong on that one. We'll see though.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/60/2/a As this would be pretty contrary to the argument you're making. Why even have this language in the bill if it's not illegal.
"(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor."
its done everyday around here, thats for handguns and every other "dangerous weapon"
theres exceptions for rifles and shotguns, unless its a SBS
Except that's only in context of hunting!
its not lol
There is an "or" here. Kyle was not in compliance with hunting regulations.
its for possession and even the legal term control
It literally is.