@shaunm109 Agreed, america is in a pickle. The problem for the rest of the world, is that if she takes structural damage now, we will all have to learn Mandarin.

UK independence for instance, needs a strong US to work.

So this election has more geopolitical consequences than any prior election post 1945.

im not about that if i was american im sure id favour trump as i dont believe biden is fit enough to be president and also hearing about the corruption in response to ukraine and the hunter biden emails are quite damning

well, I believe the president is a figure head at this point

its the administration that matters.

and the Biden-administration favors China.

Do we have any idea whom Biden would appoint to cabinet positions?

Good for the economy, bad for independence.

yeah where as a trump administration would favour american workers

correct. It would favor american oligarcs.

means trade war with china, but less influence from that side.

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Regardless, I agree. China position is an issue w/ the whole DNC

At the moment EU is being bought by Bejing. I would rather be owned by Washington than by Xi.

good job we are leaving haha

That was an awesome day.

I had rule Britannia on repeat for 10 hrs. 😄

it was then we had an extreme wing of the left and the right was trying everything to undermine the referendum and block it

we are off topic now. Wrong election.

haha yeah right

but its relevant. The geopolitical consequences of the 2020 election I think is massive.

i couldnt agree more, as a brit we are looking for a strong deal with america but i dont believe biden and kamala are fit enough to facilitate a strong deal

they are both very questionable candidates

well, they seem more invested in Chinese relations.

couldnt agree more

And the Chinese influencers in the US seems to support them.

Now, nothing wrong with this. A Chinese bank wants to make money, just like any other bank. But I dont like their efficiency culture.

And their social control routines are horrible.

I expect this to be implemented gradually across the world as they start owning stuff.

I want my Aston Martin to be built by a jolly englishman who enjoys going to the pub. Not a 22 year old zombie who works till his hands bleed.

its pretty terrifying to be honest

In some regards, yes.

remember the balance of order and freedom in a society. The chinese prefer order.

That has its flip side in the amount of control you need.

Freedom has its flipside too. Many people use their freedoms to hurt other humans. Crimerate often climbs.

yeah in my opinion there is a fine balance between the too

*two

Indeed. The UK used to be good at that balance.

Not so much recently.

i whole heartedly agree on that front

isnt it weird that our conservatives in the UK are actually not as conservative as you guys