"follow me or I exterminate your people"

Lol yessir

king Vidukin says no, Carl murderes 60 000 Saxons. Vidukin is baptized. 😄

and saxony today only has 50% saxons.

But he did a lot of modernizing in addition to standardizing.

the rest are Franks.

Rather, he standardized modernization.

@Zuluzeit Oh, indeed! A synchronious society can be extremely efficient.

Its what you see in china now.

and in Nazi germany

18 months from ruins to the highest living standard in Europe.

From about the lowest at that time, at that.

indeed

10% infant mortality

30 000 starvation deaths

"why did peple vote for hitler? It is so hard to understand!"

That's what happens when we punish for punishment's sake. Same thing happens to a lot prisoners.

no it isnt, just starve yourself for 6 months and see what happens

People have a hard time conceptualizing how a large populace went down that path. I guess you had to be there. Lol

Or read a book.

or speak to those few honest people who would talk about it in post-war germany

the old ladies in the 80ies.

in Berlin

(no old men)

I've read a bit on the subject from time to time. It was actually not just understandable. It was nearly inevitable.

I talked to an old lady once who had lived under the kaiser, weimar, hitler, DDR and BRD. Imagine that. 5 systems.

I never even thought about that amount of turnover at once but yes. Wow.

Indeed it was. When people starve, they will do anything to survive.

People always cannibalize, for instance.

*inevitable barring outside influence being exerted differently in post WWI setup

exactly

Leningrad. Yikes.

for instance.

And countless other sieges. That one was on topic.

nurses are supposed to taste like pork.

No nurses for me, then.

My grand uncle, being fluent in russian, was tasked with comunicating with prisoners on the Leningrad front. He was told nurses tasted like pork.

@Zuluzeit You dont like pork, or you are barred from it by belief?

Don't like pork by taste. Roughly barred by a rough moral conclusion a few years back. Not religious.

You are aware of professor Chalmers position on food? 😄

everything is conscious.