Message from @Elzam

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2020-11-23 00:11:33 UTC  

It’s not in good faith. The lawyers themselves know they have no case, that’s why so many of them quit

2020-11-23 00:11:46 UTC  

Here's the problem... Trump has called every election he has been in "Rigged" since he lost the Emmy's in 2003. Every election. At this point, he's a broken clock hoping the earth's rotation is on his side.

2020-11-23 00:11:46 UTC  

It's pretty hard to rile me up unless w're talking about best girl between Rei and Asuka 😆 ~~It's Asuka btw~~

2020-11-23 00:12:35 UTC  

Was the apprentice a good show?

2020-11-23 00:12:36 UTC  

Let's say it's not in good faith. President Trump will lose, lawyers might get disbarred, states certify and all proceeds normally

2020-11-23 00:12:39 UTC  

I can’t imagine it was

2020-11-23 00:13:05 UTC  

I still cannot buy this conspiracy that the President is attacking the process that was laid out 200 years ago

2020-11-23 00:13:14 UTC  

@james “you’re fired”

2020-11-23 00:13:43 UTC  

Taking advantage of rules set up 200 years ago because they couldn’t conceive of such a situation

2020-11-23 00:13:54 UTC  

I also don't buy that either

2020-11-23 00:13:58 UTC  

Why people think the founding fathers thought of everything is beyond me

2020-11-23 00:14:13 UTC  

You're telling me that people familiar with monarchs didn't think bribery would ever come into play?

2020-11-23 00:14:34 UTC  

Again bribery is not even necessary for trump to pull this off

2020-11-23 00:14:35 UTC  

Oh you don't like the word bribery, let's say persuasion

2020-11-23 00:14:47 UTC  

It’s just a tool in his tool box

2020-11-23 00:14:48 UTC  

You think monarchs were unable to engage in persuasion

2020-11-23 00:15:02 UTC  

It's a tool in everyone's tool box

2020-11-23 00:15:29 UTC  

@james j The Apprentice was actually a pretty good show. At least, I thought so at the time.

2020-11-23 00:16:33 UTC  

Right but they didn’t think that they would have a situation where someone would try to spam the courts with nonsense in order to convince people something exists when it doesn’t , and then try to invalidate votes based on nothing, remember trump does not need the courts for this

2020-11-23 00:16:46 UTC  

They were lawyers

2020-11-23 00:17:01 UTC  

Lawyers don't think of situations where people try to game the system?

2020-11-23 00:17:17 UTC  

He just had to convince enough people in certain states to make the state leaders feel pressure to invalidate the election

2020-11-23 00:17:37 UTC  

And the probability of doing so is so small that we don't care

2020-11-23 00:17:42 UTC  

they couldn’t conceive of airplanes or the internet

2020-11-23 00:18:02 UTC  

@james j It's a tactic... Just not a very honorable one.

2020-11-23 00:18:08 UTC  

Yeah

2020-11-23 00:18:32 UTC  

A dishonest tactic that should be highlighted not ignored

2020-11-23 00:19:19 UTC  

Anyways it’s super interesting that Powell got fired

2020-11-23 00:19:31 UTC  

I don't see the problem with wanting to verify that the votes that were cast were legitimate

2020-11-23 00:19:54 UTC  

Especially when mail-in ballots are more likely to be fraudulent, and they're so fraudulent the EU refuses to use them in most cases

2020-11-23 00:20:00 UTC  

As distasteful as it is, he has a right to pursue it. I am willing to bet that history will not look favorably on it and it will negate any of the positive things he was able to accomplish.

2020-11-23 00:20:41 UTC  

History finds a way to look favorably on Presidents. People still think FDR was good

2020-11-23 00:20:56 UTC  

Let's just uhh, ignore the concentration camps

2020-11-23 00:21:08 UTC  

Do you see a problem with doing it just to flip the election in your favor? With zero evidence to prompt such a mass verification while attempt to undermine democracy with frivolous claims?

2020-11-23 00:21:33 UTC  

Sure he can do it

2020-11-23 00:21:41 UTC  

But it is very disingenuous

2020-11-23 00:21:48 UTC  

I'm confused because you're complaining about 2 different things here

2020-11-23 00:22:18 UTC  

1: The President can apply "persuasion" to get states to not certify
2: The President is going through courts with claims

2020-11-23 00:22:27 UTC  

@Elzam Every politician in History has been in this same position. Every one. They really thought they were going to win and when they didn't, it was hard to take. Trump's first political run was 4 years ago. He is undefeated. He hasn't learned to lose with dignity. He getting a crash course, though... in full view of 7 billion people.

2020-11-23 00:22:29 UTC  

Can we talk about Powell getting fired and the possible fall out