There is a lot of good reason to be squinty eyed this year

Ballot harvesting rules changes for example

The Dems can clean up when it comes to GOTV campaigns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQN6Yblqapo

Allowing ballot harvesting is very eye squinty

Live in 2 minutes from now...

And there are a lot of things like that

Words like “only”, “always” and “never” always get you in trouble.

@yetiCodes, you just advanced to level 1!

I once made a list, it is hard to do on mobile

But I'm nitpicking on what you said

I probably agree with the overall point

Also:

> GoFundMe

No

lol

GoFundMe wouldn't even allow Braynard

(they kicked him off mid-funding)

No elected official is going to come out and endorse the idea that elections are illegitimate. That’s a threat to job security.

In CA, you can have someone else drop off your ballot for you, but you have to designate that person in writing on the envelop (with an additional signature by the voter) and that person must show ID when delivering it to your designated voting center. The conservatives in CA tried to call that harvesting. Totally different.

> but you have to designate that person in writing on the envelop

Why is that supposed to be reassuring

A. this basically turns get out the vote campaigns into "vote" campaigns
B. the person who visits the house also now has the ability to influence the vote

There are others... That was just a shortcut that most can understand.

Yeah I know, just more nitpicking

The whole point of campaigning is to influence the vote, but I know what you are saying. It's no different than offering carpools to drive people to the polls. And both sides have the ability to do the same thing. It's not like it favors one over the other.

@TaLoN132 both sides can do the same thing, but both sides are not _prepared_ to do the same thing on _short notice_

changing the rules like that this fast is _always_ going to raise suspicions

this is part of why trump was saying what he was saying

ofc trump added on a bunch of idiocy

but the impetus for this situation is NOT just trump

I very much disagree with that

it is Covid, and the responses to covid

@TaLoN132, I don’t think Trump needed a crystal ball to foresee that largely Dem politicians and media were advocating for mail-in + absentee ballots which have the greatest chance of fraud/tampering. I think pragmatically you could make the argument that if more ballots can be tampered with... then there will be a greater risk of irregularities. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Correct me if the logic doesn’t follow through, but I think that’s a fair assertion.

If there is more opportunity for fraud then it’s not crazy to expect more fraud.

At the very least, if you assume everybody is honest and never lies, cheats, or steals to promote their agenda, this election had significant irregularities and those should be investigated.

it isn't just opportunity for fraud

it is changing the calculus of the election

its like changing the election to mandatory voting in 3 months before an election

or some other dynamic-changing change

🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe that’s just me. Apparently saying “count the legal votes” is politically incorrect as of Nov. 3

See, @realz, it’s those changes that were made that implicate the left and warrant skepticism.

@yetiCodes, you just advanced to level 2!

The very assertion that mail-in votes have the greatest chance of fraud/tampering is not accurate. People say this, but tend to overlook the fact that committing mail-in voter fraud by assuming someone else's identity requires committing 3 felonies for each offense (identity theft, mail fraud, and voter fraud) in a way that by definition will lead the authorities to your doorstep. That's why Braynard made a point of looking into people who used postal mailboxes, but those also require identification and an application to rent.

In the same way if the GOP had made questionable alterations to the voting process months before the election and he won with irregularities the media fire would be claiming illegitimacy and corruption. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Double standard, no?