Message from @William Dinan

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2020-11-27 15:22:22 UTC  

@MatiLuc Correct.

2020-11-27 15:22:26 UTC  

@Repeat beign the president doesn't give the power to do that

2020-11-27 15:22:26 UTC  

@Doc yes exactly

2020-11-27 15:22:27 UTC  

@busillis, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-11-27 15:22:49 UTC  

One could say, every people at every time, constructs their reality completely as they like it, they just hate the fruits of the tree they love. @busillis

2020-11-27 15:23:26 UTC  

I believe you have to be in a time of war with a power to actually be able to control the nuclear arsenal. I could be wrong of course.\

2020-11-27 15:23:42 UTC  

But it's not just "The president can nuke whoever he wants willy-nilly."

2020-11-27 15:24:52 UTC  

It's the same thing with declaring war.

2020-11-27 15:25:29 UTC  

His gerneral will not allow him to just do whatever he wants. . Like that statement he made. Thar he doesn't follow no individual person.. just the constitution i think he said

2020-11-27 15:25:58 UTC  

IIRC The senate is the entity that controls declarations of war.

2020-11-27 15:26:28 UTC  

I don’t claim to be the expert on the powers of the president or how they must be executed through whatever protocols but we elect a president to do their job. Censoring a president is not wise and should be illegal IMO because it opens the door for a coup

2020-11-27 15:26:42 UTC  

@Maw those who loan money for war love war the most

2020-11-27 15:26:56 UTC  

@busillis For sure.

2020-11-27 15:27:17 UTC  

The biggest players in war are the the people who deal in arms.

2020-11-27 15:27:30 UTC  

Which is why many governments do that now.

2020-11-27 15:27:31 UTC  

@Repeat i understand ur point.

2020-11-27 15:28:21 UTC  

Not to mention the divisions between the governed take the focus off of the rulers.

2020-11-27 15:28:30 UTC  

Can the President say invade Cuba. And the Senate says no . Then who wins this argument

2020-11-27 15:28:45 UTC  

Suprene court

2020-11-27 15:29:02 UTC  

The senate holds that power.

2020-11-27 15:29:51 UTC  

Vietnam...

2020-11-27 15:29:51 UTC  

@William Dinan, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-11-27 15:29:58 UTC  

It's in the constitution.

2020-11-27 15:30:07 UTC  

Congress*

2020-11-27 15:30:15 UTC  

Sorry, not the senate.

2020-11-27 15:30:48 UTC  

@Maw thanks

2020-11-27 15:30:50 UTC  

@MatiLuc with the over classification of nearly everything plebs have no way of knowing what's really going on.

2020-11-27 15:34:46 UTC  

So the iraq war was not declared by congress?

2020-11-27 15:35:47 UTC  

The investment banks that own the real equity are the true players. Just a guess they will not give that power up without a fight.

2020-11-27 15:36:05 UTC  

I was expecting more war declarations. Stop at 1942

2020-11-27 15:36:29 UTC  

Aye, things became... weird with Vietnam.

2020-11-27 15:36:40 UTC  

And the Iraq War.

2020-11-27 15:37:19 UTC  

Wouldn’t a world without war be a far better place? Wishful unrealistic thinking over here, but it’s a shame that it is unrealistic

2020-11-27 15:37:34 UTC  

So the Iraq war falls into the same category as the Vietnam war.

2020-11-27 15:37:49 UTC  

For sure, if everyone believed in the same principles I'd fully agree. @Beth

2020-11-27 15:38:03 UTC  

@MatiLuc. "Use of Military Force" not a Declaration of War.

2020-11-27 15:39:12 UTC  

"speak softly and carry a big stick" well sometimes you have to use the stick

2020-11-27 15:39:23 UTC  

An Therein lies the problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

2020-11-27 15:39:58 UTC  

That's not a true statement. Fewer people have gotten Covid then normally get the flu but more people have died. Covid-19 is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.