Message from @busillis
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IIRC The senate is the entity that controls declarations of war.
I don’t claim to be the expert on the powers of the president or how they must be executed through whatever protocols but we elect a president to do their job. Censoring a president is not wise and should be illegal IMO because it opens the door for a coup
The biggest players in war are the the people who deal in arms.
Which is why many governments do that now.
Not to mention the divisions between the governed take the focus off of the rulers.
Can the President say invade Cuba. And the Senate says no . Then who wins this argument
Suprene court
The senate holds that power.
Vietnam...
@William Dinan, you just advanced to level 6!
It's in the constitution.
Congress*
Sorry, not the senate.
@MatiLuc with the over classification of nearly everything plebs have no way of knowing what's really going on.
So the iraq war was not declared by congress?
The investment banks that own the real equity are the true players. Just a guess they will not give that power up without a fight.
I was expecting more war declarations. Stop at 1942
Aye, things became... weird with Vietnam.
And the Iraq War.
"U.S. Senate: Official Declarations of War by Congress" https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/h_multi_sections_and_teasers/WarDeclarationsbyCongress.htm#:~:text=The%20Constitution%20grants%20Congress%20the,war%20during%20World%20War%20II.
Wouldn’t a world without war be a far better place? Wishful unrealistic thinking over here, but it’s a shame that it is unrealistic
So the Iraq war falls into the same category as the Vietnam war.
For sure, if everyone believed in the same principles I'd fully agree. @Beth
@MatiLuc. "Use of Military Force" not a Declaration of War.
"speak softly and carry a big stick" well sometimes you have to use the stick
An Therein lies the problem 🤷🏼♀️
That's not a true statement. Fewer people have gotten Covid then normally get the flu but more people have died. Covid-19 is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.
@William Dinan as the years pass loophole and new wordings can bypass alot of the balance and checks imposed in the past
"CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1)."
The last few wars were almost entirely unconstitutional, and most agree with this.
For the very reason I described.
Thanks Nixon.
@Maw for how many more years u think the government will stop using the constitution. And make its own laws and regulations
@Jorgen Johnson what if the stick is being used under false pretenses, or has been sold to the populist on outright lies? There seems to be no recourse for the population.
That same CDC estimates that Covid-19 infection fatality rate is at least 10 times as great as the seasonal flu
Covid can kill u in a week or days