Message from @busillis

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2020-12-04 16:44:31 UTC  

Verses property crimes or crimes against

2020-12-04 16:44:39 UTC  

People

2020-12-04 16:44:43 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Exactly.

2020-12-04 16:44:54 UTC  

It incentivises it.

2020-12-04 16:46:25 UTC  

These are my problems with policing. It's the philosophy which drives it. Drug laws are an ancillary subject to me, not unimportant but more like an amplifier, not cause.

2020-12-04 16:46:34 UTC  

hmmm... maybe Rob should add a category, "general-law" for discussing everything non-specific in the legal realm.

2020-12-04 16:46:38 UTC  

Why should we put people in prison and fine them, take their fundamental rights in our system for being misguided? They're almost never harming other people with their drug issues.

2020-12-04 16:46:46 UTC  

@Bey I've talked to Faith about this.

2020-12-04 16:46:49 UTC  

We'll see how it goes.

2020-12-04 16:46:53 UTC  

Do you have anybody in your life who does drugs

2020-12-04 16:47:14 UTC  

Have you been exposed to people on drugs

2020-12-04 16:47:30 UTC  

@busillis yes and yes

2020-12-04 16:47:45 UTC  

@Zuluzeit The only reason no-knock raids basically came back was because of the war on drugs.

2020-12-04 16:47:55 UTC  

You don't believe that funding Rehabilitation rather than incarceration would be a good thing

2020-12-04 16:48:03 UTC  

It's a fundamental problem with the existing enforcement issues.

2020-12-04 16:48:33 UTC  

This was the entire purpose of the channel until Trump pre-claimed conditional rigging. Makes me dislike him even more. Didn't think that was possible.

2020-12-04 16:48:52 UTC  

The "War On ______" paradigm was created as a "cash cow" for the government with the intent that such a "war" will be neverending.

2020-12-04 16:49:38 UTC  

War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror, etc...

2020-12-04 16:49:45 UTC  

It was to fill privatized prisons when they concocted that billion dollar idea and joined ALEC.

2020-12-04 16:49:47 UTC  

i have the same view on the 2nd as if you do not know how to properly use, operate and secure a weapon you should not be able to own one. AKA darwin/God will work it out just fine in the end. we need not more regulations on any of it is all i am saying. Human Much?

2020-12-04 16:49:47 UTC  

I guess your new Jesus I'll take away all the pain make everything right in the world.

2020-12-04 16:49:55 UTC  

Two of those have led to terrible outcomes in the American system.

2020-12-04 16:49:57 UTC  

They will *always* exist in one form or another

2020-12-04 16:50:09 UTC  

War on terror? Everyone submitted their rights for 'security'.

2020-12-04 16:50:18 UTC  

Like the government was some sort of bloody mob boss.

2020-12-04 16:50:19 UTC  

It is insane think there are any differences between Democrats or Republicans

2020-12-04 16:50:42 UTC  

Both are owned and operated by wealthy business interest

2020-12-04 16:51:12 UTC  

I always refer to the political parties as different tenatacles on the same beast

2020-12-04 16:51:21 UTC  

Why is there not the will to enforce anti trust laws currently on the books

2020-12-04 16:51:26 UTC  

give me my 2nd i can take care of my own Security fine "GET OFF MY LAWN!"

2020-12-04 16:51:47 UTC  

For sure, I'm all for people to have access to their 2nd amendment rights.

2020-12-04 16:51:56 UTC  

Which is also another reason I fucking despise the war on drugs.

2020-12-04 16:52:45 UTC  

Gun laws *only* affect the Law abiding, *never* the criminal

2020-12-04 16:53:02 UTC  

Great, so the government gets to choose who does and doesn't have rights.

2020-12-04 16:53:04 UTC  

Platitudes

2020-12-04 16:53:11 UTC  

Are not action

2020-12-04 16:53:28 UTC  

For whatever reason.

2020-12-04 16:53:48 UTC  

Why should prior drug offenders have their rights revoked?

2020-12-04 16:53:55 UTC  

Even a reshaping of the rhetoric better than

2020-12-04 16:54:00 UTC  

Because they're 'criminals' in your mind?

2020-12-04 16:54:14 UTC  

Ruin their lives and make sure that they'll never become productive members of society